[Info-vax] Reinventing VMS logical names (Fuchsia & Win NT)

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 11/16/2023 1:18 PM, Dan Cross wrote:
> In article <uj5en8$2b2rf$1 at dont-email.me>,
> Arne Vajhøj  <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>> In article <3c044c90-ddb9-40ea-9e12-7c71279cd547n at googlegroups.com>,
>> Jake Hamby (Solid State Jake) <jake.hamby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>   On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 12:40:38 PM UTC-8, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>>> DEC did a whole lot of work on DCE.
>>>>
>>>> OpenVMS itself never particularly incorporated DCE within, but DCE was
>>>> what DEC was both pushing internally and externally back at the time.
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft picked up DCE and ran with it, via the related COM/DCOM/OLE
>>>> stuff, and all of what was built upon that.
>>
>>> DCE was a nice idea but it really lost out in the court of
>>> public opinion for being expensive, promoted by "dinosaur"
>>> companies, and not being OO, in contrast to CORBA, which had
>>> its own problems, but was popular enough to get incorporated
>>> into the standard Java libraries until it was finally only
>>> recently dropped.
>>
>> Is DCE RPC less OO than CORBA?
>>
>> DCE RPC use IDL. And it seems perfectly OO to me. A client can
>> be written in C but so can clients for CORBA. Just cumbersome.
> 
> Sun ONC RPC uses an IDL too.  Would you call that "Object
> Oriented"?  If so, what does that term even mean?

I don't know Sun ONC RPC IDL.

But if it is an abstract definition of an interface defining
the methods that an object implementation has to implement,
then it object oriented.

>> Clean (as in "out of the box from OSF") DCE RPC may never have caught
>> on, but DCOM that is based on DCE RPC is on every Windows system
>> out there.
> 
> The RPC protocol was just one component of DCE.  There was also
> the time service, authentication service, name service, and
> filesystem.

Time, auth and name services are supporting services for the
application framework.

File system seems weird. And I don't think any of the similar
technologies had such.

Arne