[Info-vax] A cry for help

[Michael S]

On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 03:50:07 +1030
Mark Daniel <mark.daniel at wasd.vsm.com.au> wrote:

> On 20/11/2023 01:00, Michael S wrote:
> > On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 21:58:07 +1030
> > Mark Daniel <mark.daniel at wasd.vsm.com.au> wrote:
> >   
> >> On 19/11/2023 20:52, Fred. Zwarts wrote:  
> >>> Op 19.nov.2023 om 03:03 schreef Mark Daniel:  
> >>>> On 24/10/2023 01:49, Mark Daniel wrote:  
> >>>>> On 24/10/2023 00:05, bill wrote:  
> >>>>>> On 10/23/2023 8:14 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:  
> >>>>>>> On 2023-10-23, Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:  
> >>>>>>>> On 10/23/2023 6:32 AM, Henry Crun wrote:  
> >>>>>>>>> If anyone has a remedy for the slew oc 'Black Magic' and
> >>>>>>>>> 'Love potions"
> >>>>>>>>> spam, please let me know.
> >>>>>>>>> Otherwise I am going to have to -- unwillingly -- lose
> >>>>>>>>> contact with VMS
> >>>>>>>>> after something like three decades  
> >>>>>>>>     
> >>>>> 8< snip 8<  
> >> 8< snip 8<  
> >>>> PS. Thunderbird says it supports "Customize"d message headers
> >>>> such as Injection-Info and User-Agent which would have been
> >>>> *very* useful with "contains gmail.com" parameters but I
> >>>> couldn't get it to work (and the few posts a search engine could
> >>>> muster suggested that was the long-time consensus).  Pity.
> >>>>     
> >>>
> >>> For me  
> >>>> Injection-Info contains: google-groups.googlegroups.com  
> >>> works very well in Thunderbird 115.4.2.  
> >>
> >> It DOES!  115.4.3 for mine.
> >>
> >> Thought I'd previously tried this without success.  Go figure.
> >>
> >> Much less of a sledgehammer.
> >>  
> > 
> > I wonder why so many people here are trying to re-invent a wheel
> > with very expected consequences of their wheels being square
> > instead of leaving filtering to professional.
> > What prevents people from following an advice of Retro Guy?
> > What he proposes works. It works well. And it's far easier than
> > setting up your own filter.  
> 
> I guess it is a matter of; having a pretty elementary setup for
> reading just c.o.v. which worked without any attention for years
> until just recently...  Folk are trying to massage what they have
> already in place and now this advice from Fred seems to address the
> immediate issue.
> 
> The wheels are (now) roughly circular.  Spoke-spanner back in the
> toolkit.
> 
> Kudos to Usenet feeds that have this under control.  Mine does not.
> 
> Prepared to give it a go but doesn't inspire a great deal of
> confidence downloading from a source that has a server cert expired
> 35 days ago (https://osdn.dl.osdn.net/sylpheed/).
> 

Sylpheed is not a part of his advice that I had in mind. May be, it's
superb, but like you, I found the lack of recent updates suspect.
Personally, I went with Sylpheed's child named Clows-Mail, but I am
sure that many other clients work too. The only one I found unusable
was Thunderbird. But even that is just my personal bias.

I meant the part where he suggests to access c.o.v via news.i2pn2.org.
He manages this server and so far appears to deal with recent wave
(flood) of spam better than anybody else.
BTW, it costs nothing.

> Might stay with my tack-hammer a little longer but will keep these in
> mind.
> 
> PS. My mail provider uses Process Software PMAS which works
> well-enough. Occasionally I need to go hunting for an expected email
> and have noticed the majority of spam to my account originates from
> gmail.  While claiming 99.9% of spam does not reach gmail recipients
> the same effort should be applied to gmail spam origination.  There I
> go again; pissing in the wind.
>