[Info-vax] A cry for help

[Michael S]

On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 1:57:14 PM UTC+2, Neil Rieck wrote:
> On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 5:45:58 PM UTC-5, Michael S wrote: 
> > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 2:34:18 PM UTC+2, Neil Rieck
> > wrote: 
> > > On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 8:20:47 AM UTC-5, Simon Clubley
> > > wrote: 
> > > > On 2023-11-19, Robert A. Brooks <FIRST... at vmssoftware.com>
> > > > wrote: 
> > > > > On 11/19/2023 6:28 AM, Mark Daniel wrote: 
> > > > >> On 19/11/2023 20:52, Fred. Zwarts wrote: 
> > > > >>> Op 19.nov.2023 om 03:03 schreef Mark Daniel: 
> > > > > 
> > > > >>>> Injection-Info contains: google-groups.googlegroups.com 
> > > > >>> works very well in Thunderbird 115.4.2. 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> It DOES! 115.4.3 for mine. 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Thought I'd previously tried this without success. Go
> > > > >> figure. 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Much less of a sledgehammer. 
> > > > >> 
> > > > > 
> > > > > As a Thunderbird user with no filters, I've seen no spam
> > > > > posts all week. 
> > > > > 
> > > > According to your headers, you appear to be using Eternal
> > > > September and they are currently doing the filtering on your
> > > > behalf. 
> > > > 
> > > > Unfortunately, they sometimes filter genuine posts as well that
> > > > have wrongly been classified as spam. 
> > > > 
> > > > Simon. 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Simon Clubley, clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP 
> > > > Walking destinations on a map are further away than they
> > > > appear. 
> > > I wonder if there is something wrong with the group settings of
> > > cov Our group allows anyone to post 
> > > Other groups only allow group members to post (so they need to
> > > have a google account, and must first authenticate). Perhaps this
> > > is how they control throttling (like posts per minute). I have
> > > sent a note to google asking how to change these settings If the
> > > settings cannot be changed, then I wonder if we shouldn't create
> > > a new group titled comp.os.openvms 
> > > 
> > > Neil Rieck 
> > > Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. 
> > > https://neilrieck.net 
> > comp.os.vms is not a Google group. It is a Usenet group that can be
> > accessed, apart from other means, via Google's web portal. 
> > Usenet does not have a notion of group membership.
> Then I wonder who set the privacy settings for comp.os.linux (gets
> SPAM but is tiny by comparison to comp.os.vms) because clicking
> "about" on comp.os.linux reveals that anyone posting there must have
> a google account. 
> 
> On a related note, we could create a new group called comp.os.openvms
> then set the privacy settings to be more restirctive. Neil Rieck 
> Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. 
> https://neilrieck.net


I am afraid that Usenet has no more notion of 'privacy settings' than
it has of membership.
Usenet groups are either moderated or they are not. There is no
middle ground. And making a group moderated is too big hammer which is
obviously impractical in case of this particular group.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet


BTW, right now Eternal September server drops all comp.os.vms messages
originated at Google Groups. Among other things it means that
approximately half of comp.os.vms community do not see your recent
posts.