[Info-vax] A cry for help

[Neil Rieck]

On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 8:58:20 AM UTC-5, Michael S wrote:
> On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 1:57:14 PM UTC+2, Neil Rieck wrote: 
> > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 5:45:58 PM UTC-5, Michael S wrote: 
> > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 2:34:18 PM UTC+2, Neil Rieck 
> > > wrote: 
> > > > On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 8:20:47 AM UTC-5, Simon Clubley 
> > > > wrote: 
> > > > > On 2023-11-19, Robert A. Brooks <FIRST... at vmssoftware.com> 
> > > > > wrote: 
> > > > > > On 11/19/2023 6:28 AM, Mark Daniel wrote: 
> > > > > >> On 19/11/2023 20:52, Fred. Zwarts wrote: 
> > > > > >>> Op 19.nov.2023 om 03:03 schreef Mark Daniel: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >>>> Injection-Info contains: google-groups.googlegroups.com 
> > > > > >>> works very well in Thunderbird 115.4.2. 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> It DOES! 115.4.3 for mine. 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> Thought I'd previously tried this without success. Go 
> > > > > >> figure. 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> Much less of a sledgehammer. 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > As a Thunderbird user with no filters, I've seen no spam 
> > > > > > posts all week. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > According to your headers, you appear to be using Eternal 
> > > > > September and they are currently doing the filtering on your 
> > > > > behalf. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Unfortunately, they sometimes filter genuine posts as well that 
> > > > > have wrongly been classified as spam. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Simon. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Simon Clubley, clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP 
> > > > > Walking destinations on a map are further away than they 
> > > > > appear. 
> > > > I wonder if there is something wrong with the group settings of 
> > > > cov Our group allows anyone to post 
> > > > Other groups only allow group members to post (so they need to 
> > > > have a google account, and must first authenticate). Perhaps this 
> > > > is how they control throttling (like posts per minute). I have 
> > > > sent a note to google asking how to change these settings If the 
> > > > settings cannot be changed, then I wonder if we shouldn't create 
> > > > a new group titled comp.os.openvms 
> > > > 
> > > > Neil Rieck 
> > > > Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. 
> > > > https://neilrieck.net 
> > > comp.os.vms is not a Google group. It is a Usenet group that can be 
> > > accessed, apart from other means, via Google's web portal. 
> > > Usenet does not have a notion of group membership. 
> > Then I wonder who set the privacy settings for comp.os.linux (gets 
> > SPAM but is tiny by comparison to comp.os.vms) because clicking 
> > "about" on comp.os.linux reveals that anyone posting there must have 
> > a google account. 
> > 
> > On a related note, we could create a new group called comp.os.openvms 
> > then set the privacy settings to be more restirctive. Neil Rieck 
> > Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. 
> > https://neilrieck.net
> I am afraid that Usenet has no more notion of 'privacy settings' than 
> it has of membership. 
> Usenet groups are either moderated or they are not. There is no 
> middle ground. And making a group moderated is too big hammer which is 
> obviously impractical in case of this particular group. 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet 
> 
> 
> BTW, right now Eternal September server drops all comp.os.vms messages 
> originated at Google Groups. Among other things it means that 
> approximately half of comp.os.vms community do not see your recent 
> posts.

Just for shits-n-giggles, use a browser to connect here: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.vms
Then click on the 3-line hamburger next to the Groups icon.
Then click on "about" to view the privacy settings.
Now do the same for https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux then take notice of the differences

Neil