[Info-vax] What is a "real" Unix ?

[Simon Clubley]

On 2023-09-04, Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com> wrote:
> Simon Clubley  <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:
>>
>>Or is Linux really a Unix after all (in every way that matters) and what's
>>really going on here is just some out-of-touch BSD Unix elitism ?
>
> I think that philosophically Linux started out with the Unix philosophy but
> is rather quickly drifting away from it now.  There's a lot of giant 
> monolithic stuff in Linux, from gnome2 to systemd, which is somewhat
> contrary to the original Unix philosophy.  Linux has succumbed to the urge
> to put everything possible into the kernel and this is very non-Ritchie.
> --scott

Gnome 2 has nothing to do with Unix as it's just a GUI (that could run
just as well on VMS if VMS had the required functionality).
Unfortunately, Gnome 2 worked way too well, so Gnome 3 was invented...

With regards to systemd, people were saying the Linux is not Unix
thing even back in the days of init scripts before systemd was even
a thing.

However, to develop that point, there are some systemd-free distributions.
Would they be considered to be Unix, and if not, why not ?

Simon.

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