[Info-vax] OpenVMS funny with SSH

[Simon Clubley]

On 2024-04-05, Craig A. Berry <craigberry at nospam.mac.com> wrote:
>
> On 4/5/24 7:12 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2024-04-04, Single Stage to Orbit <alex.buell at munted.eu> wrote:
>>> Just noticed this when I used SSH to login:
>>>
>>> $ ssh alex at kakapo
>>>
>>>   Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) x86_64 Operating System, Version V9.2-2
>>>
>>>      Last interactive login on Thursday,  4-APR-2024 21:57:38.46
>>>      Last non-interactive login on Wednesday, 17-NOV-1858 00:00:00.00
>>>
>>> 1858???? :-D
>> 
>> That needs reporting in the forum. That last line should be suppressed
>> when there is a zero date value in that VMS quad time field (which is
>> what the above date/time is).
>> 
>> It looks like a check for a zero (ie: missing) date/time is going wrong,
>> which is something that could have implications elsewhere.
>
> If the display needs modification (debatable) it should not be
> suppressed; it should say "never" because that's what the start of epoch
> value has always meant in the UAF time fields.
>

When you login via another method (say LAT or CTERM), what is currently
shown on the last non-interactive login line when the account has never
had a non-interactive login ?

Does the answer change depending on whether it is VAX, Alpha, IA64,
or x86-64 ?

The above ssh on x86-64 example needs to match the current behaviour on
other architectures and other login protocols, IMHO.

Simon.

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