[Info-vax] Hobbyist program on The Register

[John H. Reinhardt]

On 4/9/2024 8:38 PM, bill wrote:
> On 4/9/2024 9:18 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 4/9/2024 1:18 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> The changes to the hobbyist program have made it to The Register:
>>>
>>> https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/09/vsi_prunes_hobbyist_prog/
>>>
>>> A number of comments about, ermm, "ways" to bypass the VSI limitations.
>>>
>>> I wonder what the reaction of those people will be if VSI just outright
>>> cancels the whole program in response, while blaming "certain attitudes"
>>> for that decision ?
>>>
>>> Simon.
>>>
>>
>> Ok Simon, I took the time to read that article, and the replies.  Didn't see too much about license bypassing.  One mention of an existing method, and that method is much older than VSI, so nothing new to them, or anyone else.
> 
> Well, you had someone talk about taking the licenses off of the
> distributed VM and using it on another.
> 

Been there, did that as reported by me in another thread.  It kept my two earlier x86 OpenVMS systems running without having to migrate my changes.  Of course, the vmdk licenses were fewer that what was on the previous CLP version by 31. But a good number of them were covered by the HAOE blanket license.  The ones that weren't were mostly odd things very few used.

>>
>> I've wondered about the complaints about patching the CL distributions. Not sure I understand.  What would stop a patch of such?  Of course, there is the question of access to patches.

That's the complaint.  The assumption is that there will be no access to patches nor new versions other than when the next CLP vmdk is released.  If the CLP stuff is only on a once-a-year vmdk distribution, then bug fixes will be far and few between and if they are nasty ones then may stop people from using the distribution at all.

> 
> 
> And, there's the rub.  If they aren't planning on letting CL users
> run up to date systems they are apparently not planning on them
> providing valid test data.  :-)
> 
> For some of us it's a little funny to think that our beloved PDP-11
> may out last VMS in production systems.
> 
> 
> bill
> 
> 

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John H. Reinhardt