[Info-vax] report of the last "rendez-vous autour de VMS" (2-FEB-2024)

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 4/19/2024 11:51 AM, Dan Cross wrote:
> In article <uvttut$31g69$1 at dont-email.me>,
> Arne Vajhøj  <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>> On 4/18/2024 7:05 PM, Dan Cross wrote:
>>> In article <uvrpvg$2dbgu$3 at dont-email.me>,
>>> Arne Vajhøj  <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>>> On 4/17/2024 11:29 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 22:27:58 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>> But VMS could not wait years for a new CPU.
>>>>>
>>>>> VMS wasn’t “waiting” for anything. It was customers waiting for VMS.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Because VSI ported to a CPU that was ready. Instead of to a CPU
>>>> that may be ready some day in the future.
>>>
>>> ARM is ready right now.
>>
>> You can buy an ARM server or rent an ARM VM in a public
>> cloud if you search for it.
>>
>> But very few of the VMS customers will have ARM servers
>> or ARM VM's today.
>>
>> So even though ARM would have been better than Itanium,
>> because it is possible to buy a new one, then it would
>> still have been a market disaster as VMS would still be
>> "that weird OS that requires different HW than the
>> rest of our stuff".
> 
> I see you omitted the rest of my post in which I
> largely agreed with you.  The point was that you are
> mistaken in asserting earlier that ARM is not ready.
> It absolutely is.

No. In this context being ready means that the CPU
has a position in the market where VMS users will consider
it an acceptable platform - and it does not. Maybe it will
in 10 years, maybe in 20 years. But not today.

Arne