[Info-vax] openvms and xterm

[Grant Taylor]

On 4/20/24 18:26, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> The problem is not systemd.  Systemd is a symptom of the problem.

I can agree to that.

> The problem is change for change's sake.  Let's rewrite this thing 
> and make it different... not better, just different.

I feel like there is a HUGE dose of ignorance on some contemporary 
developers and they are repeating old mistakes and making new mistakes.

I know that some oft maligned changes are actually rooted in good 
reason.  I'm thinking about the deprecation of ifconfig, netstat, and 
route.  The kernel grew, changed, and gained a LOT of new options that 
the old tools had no idea how to work with.  I can get behind that.

What I can't stand is why there aren't new versions of ifconfig, 
netstat, and route that use the new framework while providing command 
compatibility with nearly 50 years of Unix and Unix like OS history. 
Not providing a compatible wrapper is stupid in my opinion.

> There's some argument for a service manager.  But a service manager 
> should not replace everything with one big monolithic chunk.  I am not 
> a fan of service managers and I didn't like when Solaris implemented 
> it, but I can see some arguments in favor.

At least Solaris stopped SMF at managing services and didn't try to take 
over DNS, NTP, and many other things.



-- 
Grant. . . .