[Info-vax] openvms and xterm

[Andreas Eder]

On Sa 20 Apr 2024 at 19:32, Grant Taylor <gtaylor at tnetconsulting.net> wrote:

> On 4/20/24 18:26, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>> The problem is not systemd.  Systemd is a symptom of the problem.
>
> I can agree to that.
>
>> The problem is change for change's sake. Let's rewrite this thing and make
>> it different... not better, just different.
>
> I feel like there is a HUGE dose of ignorance on some contemporary
> developers and they are repeating old mistakes and making new
> mistakes.

I think the problem is that they grew up in a Windows dominated world,
not like us greybeards.

> I know that some oft maligned changes are actually rooted in good reason.
> I'm thinking about the deprecation of ifconfig, netstat, and route. The
> kernel grew, changed, and gained a LOT of new options that the old tools had
> no idea how to work with. I can get behind that.
>
> What I can't stand is why there aren't new versions of ifconfig, netstat,
> and route that use the new framework while providing command compatibility
> with nearly 50 years of Unix and Unix like OS history. Not providing a
> compatible wrapper is stupid in my opinion.

+1

'Andreas
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