[Info-vax] openvms and xterm

chrisq devzero at nospam.com
Sun Apr 28 06:57:13 EDT 2024


On 4/28/24 02:56, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 00:59:11 +0100, chrisq wrote:
> 
>> On 4/27/24 23:55, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:50:06 +0100, chrisq wrote:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps some really can't see a need for [systemd] ...
>>>
>>> That’s entirely fair. That’s why we have so many Linux distros that
>>> don’t use it. Open Source is all about choice.
>>
>> Perhaps, but even Devuan still has traces of it, which suggests that
>> it's very difficult to get rid of.
> 
> You mean, the much-ballyhooed “systemd-free” distro isn’t so
> “systemd-free” after all?
> 
>> ... for example, why are log files in binary ?...
> 
> Let me see if I can count the ways:
> 
> * Easy logfile rotation, just by deleting expired records instead of
> * having to rewrite the whole file Quick lookup of entries by
> * attributes, including ones that cannot be faked by services
> * themselves Timestamps that can be interpreted in any timezone
> 
> Actually, there’s lots more. Have a look at the design document
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IC9yOXj7j6cdLLxWEBAGRL6wl97tFxgjLUEHIX3MSTs/pub>.
> 
> Just a pro tip: the time to ask questions is *before* you start
> spouting off about how terrible something is, not *after*.

Tetchy ?. Perhaps your coffee displeased you this morning :-).
Anyway, unconvincing reply.

It's quite clear that what is driving the adoption of systemd is
corporate interests that want / need a unified system management
framework. In the past every vendor had their own remote management
solution, but the obvious need for corporates is a solution that
works transparently for all systems in the mix. The ideal would
be remote management using a browser, so in the future, systemd will
become even more bloated, to include a web server, apps and
database, leading to the obvious question, why bother having a
Linux kernel at all ?. By that time, corporate interests, will have
absorbed Linux and have complete control over future direction.
You can call that conspiracy theory if you like, but it's naive to
think that corporate interests have any altruism at all. It's the
way it works. If it can be monetised, absorb, suppress, and control...






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