[Info-vax] openvms and xterm

[chrisq]

On 4/30/24 06:15, motk wrote:
> On 28/04/2024 2:13 am, chrisq wrote:
> 
>> If you had ever worked on serious system design, you would realise
>> that reliable system design depends on strict partitioning and
>> encapsulation. Layered functionality, with defined interfaces.
>> Strangely  enough, but "elegance" really does apply in many such
>> cases, and is what many software engineers strive for.
> 
> Plan9 has ruined so many brains.
 >

Never even looked at plan 9.

> 
> Nice veiled insult, I guess?

Apparently, even defensive paranoids have real enemies :-).

> 
> 
>>  > It really sounds like you just need to sit down, read the 
>> documentation
>>  > from the systemd and distro side, and work out what works for you.
>>  > Sitting around carping at what is now an established industry standard
>>  > because 'elegance' isn't how I choose to spend my time.
> 
>> No, I don't need to sit down and spend hours reading docs on
>> something I don't need for my work and that is wrong by design,
>> though I guess design elegance does depend on personal opinion.
> 
> You sure have plenty of opinions to chuck over the fence though.
> 

That's what tech debate is about. As an aside, had a quick look at some
sources for the network section of systemd. networkctl.c starts off
by loading > 70 header (.h) files and the total number of source files 
well over 100. Really, just for networking ?. No comments to be
seen anywhere either, though perhaps that's the fashion these days.
 > 3000 lines of source, 116 Kbytes.

If that sort of thing doesn't qualify as being bloatware, then what
does ?, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Mainstream Linux will end up just a pile of complex, opaque goop, just
like windoze. Thankfully, there are alternatives...

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