[Info-vax] New CEO of VMS Software

Dan Cross cross at spitfire.i.gajendra.net
Fri Jan 5 19:10:40 EST 2024


In article <un9upd$a5ai$1 at dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D'Oliveiro  <ldo at nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 13:27:14 -0000 (UTC), Dan Cross wrote:
>
>> In article <un81en$l6e$2 at dont-email.me>,
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro  <ldo at nz.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>I thought I made it pretty clear early on that I was only talking about
>>>porting across userland executables and DCL command procedures--just the
>>>parts of VMS that users care about, nothing more.
>> 
>> That would necessarily entail dragging in much of the rest of the
>> operating system.
>
>No it wouldn't.

Bluntly, you haven't impressed me as having the technical
knowledge to be capable of offering an intelligent opinion on
the matter, so your statement is worthless.

>Any more than WINE entails implementing the whole of 
>Windows on top of Linux. We don't need any actual supervisor-mode DCL, or 
>kernel-mode drivers, or any actual ACPs/XQPs, only a layer that emulates 
>their behaviour, for example. No need for EVL or MPW or the whole queue 
>system, because Linux already provides plenty of existing facilities for 
>that kind of thing. No VMScluster rigmarole.

On this I actually agree with Arne.  He's right; you are wrong.

>> Consider that for both the VAX _and_ Alpha, DEC was able to shape the
>> design of the hardware _and_ of VMS simultaneously to match one another.
>
>And yet they were never able to make VMS a fully 64-bit OS, even on their 
>own fully 64-bit hardware.

Cool story, bro.

	- Dan C.




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