[Info-vax] New CEO of VMS Software
Dan Cross
cross at spitfire.i.gajendra.net
Fri Jan 5 19:10:40 EST 2024
In article <un9upd$a5ai$1 at dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo at nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 13:27:14 -0000 (UTC), Dan Cross wrote:
>
>> In article <un81en$l6e$2 at dont-email.me>,
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo at nz.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>I thought I made it pretty clear early on that I was only talking about
>>>porting across userland executables and DCL command procedures--just the
>>>parts of VMS that users care about, nothing more.
>>
>> That would necessarily entail dragging in much of the rest of the
>> operating system.
>
>No it wouldn't.
Bluntly, you haven't impressed me as having the technical
knowledge to be capable of offering an intelligent opinion on
the matter, so your statement is worthless.
>Any more than WINE entails implementing the whole of
>Windows on top of Linux. We don't need any actual supervisor-mode DCL, or
>kernel-mode drivers, or any actual ACPs/XQPs, only a layer that emulates
>their behaviour, for example. No need for EVL or MPW or the whole queue
>system, because Linux already provides plenty of existing facilities for
>that kind of thing. No VMScluster rigmarole.
On this I actually agree with Arne. He's right; you are wrong.
>> Consider that for both the VAX _and_ Alpha, DEC was able to shape the
>> design of the hardware _and_ of VMS simultaneously to match one another.
>
>And yet they were never able to make VMS a fully 64-bit OS, even on their
>own fully 64-bit hardware.
Cool story, bro.
- Dan C.
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