From MLMaag at perkinscoie.com Fri Jul 1 19:27:57 2005
From: MLMaag at perkinscoie.com (Maag, Mary Lou)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 16:27:57 -0700
Subject: [Squaredancing] NEC
Message-ID: <73D41346804B4341A8E259260D5ADC330BBC50@SEASMAIL03.perkinscoie.root.loc>
It's my experience that the various committees putting on the national
conventions in recent years have felt themselves constrained by the NEC
to varying degrees. I have looked at
http://nationalsquaredanceconvention.com/
. I see that if one is an
organization interested in bidding to have a national convention, at
some point the NEC will/ may send you a copy of the Guidelines. What I
would like to know is whether it is at all possible for a dancer
interested in participating in national conventions in the future could
somehow get or review a copy of the NEC guidelines. Does anyone have
access to a copy they would let me review?
Mary Lou
Seattle
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From GSMom81131 at aol.com Fri Jul 1 21:07:01 2005
From: GSMom81131 at aol.com (GSMom81131 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:07:01 EDT
Subject: [Squaredancing] NEC
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Mary Lou,
Why not contact the NEC directly? Contact info is in the National Squares
Magazine.
Barbara
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From brucemorgan at earthlink.net Fri Jul 1 22:58:12 2005
From: brucemorgan at earthlink.net (Bruce)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:58:12 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] NEC
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Message-ID: <008001c57eb1$e33b6980$7001a8c0@Bruce>
The NEC web page is located at:
http://www.nationalsquaredanceconvention.com/
At this site it has a list of all the members of the NEC and their
positions. You can ask them if they will send you a copy of the guidelines.
I am sure that they will provide you one.
Harry & Pat Nelson; 2003 - Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, are probably the ones
that you should ask first. If they cannot then try some of the others.
Good luck,
Bruce
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[mailto:Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf Of Maag, Mary Lou
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 7:28 PM
To: This list for discussing all aspect of MWSD
Subject: [Squaredancing] NEC
It's my experience that the various committees putting on the national
conventions in recent years have felt themselves constrained by the NEC to
varying degrees. I have looked at
http://nationalsquaredanceconvention.com/. I see that if one is an
organization interested in bidding to have a national convention, at some
point the NEC will/ may send you a copy of the Guidelines. What I would
like to know is whether it is at all possible for a dancer interested in
participating in national conventions in the future could somehow get or
review a copy of the NEC guidelines. Does anyone have access to a copy they
would let me review?
Mary Lou
Seattle
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From nshukayr at aol.com Sun Jul 3 16:28:16 2005
From: nshukayr at aol.com (nshukayr at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 16:28:16 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper
Message-ID: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com>
Do you ever need to be at a certain place in the square, but a
lost clueless dancer blocks your path? It's a dilemma! You
can't go THROUGH the obstacle. You can't go UNDER. There's
really not much you can do ... until now! Today we proudly
announce the new Square Hopper!
Square Hopper is essentially a Pogo Stick with several important
enhancements:
- Square Hopper bounces in time with the music.
- It can jump heights of 6 feet or more.
- Unsightly mechanical parts are covered by a fluffy petticoat.
With Square Hopper you can go directly to your correct ending
position by bouncing OVER anyone in your way. Just imagine! No
more bumping into people. No more saying "Pardon me" which might
cause you to miss the next call. With Square Hopper, the right
spot is just a hop away!
What if two dancers in a square both have Square Hoppers? No
problem! Whenever two Square Hoppers meet in flight, the Right
Shoulder Rule applies. And if two Square Hoppers end on the same
spot, they take turns bouncing diagonally into that one spot. A
new organization (HopperLab) will be formed to define these and
many other rules.
Square Hopper helps dancers keep in time with the music. The
main spring is easily adjustable. Simply ask your caller to
announce the music tempo prior to each tip. Square Hopper's main
scale is calibrated in Beats (Hops) Per Minute. The secondary
scale is an old-fashioned 45 RPM slider, and the third scale is
the simplest with just three easy settings: Normal, Too Slow, and
Hang On For Dear Life.
As a special promotion, if you buy eight Square Hoppers the ninth
one is free! And just WHO will use that ninth Square Hopper? The
CALLER of course! Some callers are not accustomed to dancers
hopping up and down. The caller might become disoriented. But
if the caller uses a Square Hopper too, then everyone bounces at
the same time so everything appears normal.
Callers must be careful to watch only hopping dancers, without
looking at the walls, ceiling and floor. The sight of the room
bouncing up and down might distract the caller. Please note that
many callers are accustomed to seeing a room SPINNING around,
especially while imbibing after a dance. But a room HOPPING up
and down is a totally new sensation which should be avoided.
Don't expect to use your Square Hopper right away! You'll need
lessons. For your convenience, lessons start once a year and the
class lasts eight months. The first two lessons are free, but if
you miss three lessons you're out and you have to start over.
After graduation you must hop only in beginner squares for a year
until you're finally allowed into good squares. Most people
would be turned off by all these restrictions. But you're
already a square dancer, so you already know how to survive such
an ordeal.
With Square Hopper, you'll end up where you need to be, in style
and in time with the music. Everyone else will have one. Whether
or not you're ready, don't you want to rush to the same level as
everyone else? Order your Square Hopper today!
Nasser "If you can bounce, you can Square Hop" Shukayr
San Benito, Texas
From Anniebplus at aol.com Sun Jul 3 18:26:07 2005
From: Anniebplus at aol.com (Anniebplus at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:26:07 EDT
Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper
Message-ID:
Cute Nasser! I hope you don't expect these to be used for New Year's Eve.
Oh! I forgot. There is an 8 month training period. That means we're short
by 2 months. LOL See you then.
Anne
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From caller at 3g.quik.com Sun Jul 3 18:39:26 2005
From: caller at 3g.quik.com (JOEY DUHAMEL)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:39:26 -0500
Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper
References: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c58020$14606e60$6ecad1d1@computer>
I think this has already been invented. It's called TIGGER.
JOEY AND BEVERLEY DUHAMEL
JUST FRIENDS SQUARE DANCE CLUB, MONROE, LA:
http://www.webspawner.com/users/justfriendsdancers/
SOUTHERN SWINGERS SQUARE DANCE CLUB, SHREVEPORT/BOSSIER CITY, LA:
http://www.geocities.com/southern_swingers_sdc/
JOEY'S SCHEDULE:
http://www.webspawner.com/users/joeysschedule/
JUBILEE IN JEFFERSON, FEBRUARY 17 - 19, 2006, WITH WADE DRIVER, JOEY,
OTHERS:
http://www.webspawner.com/users/jubileeinjefferson/
CARIBBEAN CRUISE, NOVEMBER 2005, WITH JOEY, OTHERS:
http://www.webspawner.com/users/sdcruising/
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> - Square Hopper bounces in time with the music.
> - It can jump heights of 6 feet or more.
> - Unsightly mechanical parts are covered by a fluffy petticoat.
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From jazzgirl7496 at bellsouth.net Sun Jul 3 18:46:01 2005
From: jazzgirl7496 at bellsouth.net (Sandy Caldwell)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:46:01 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper
In-Reply-To: <000e01c58020$14606e60$6ecad1d1@computer>
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Joey and Nasser,
Although it has been invented and is widely used, it is invisible. We
only see the results. When a dancer get from one side of the square to
another in only one beat of music, you know they have one of these.
JOEY DUHAMEL wrote:
>I think this has already been invented. It's called TIGGER.
>
>
>
>
From giulio at space.net.au Sun Jul 3 19:15:54 2005
From: giulio at space.net.au (Massarotto family)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:15:54 +0800
Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper
References: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com>
<000e01c58020$14606e60$6ecad1d1@computer>
Message-ID: <012d01c58025$2ab9eba0$ca4e5bcb@Administrator>
just wondering, can these be adapted to zimmer-frames
Giulio
----- Original Message -----
From: "JOEY DUHAMEL"
To:
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper
> I think this has already been invented. It's called TIGGER.
>
> JOEY AND BEVERLEY DUHAMEL
> JUST FRIENDS SQUARE DANCE CLUB, MONROE, LA:
> http://www.webspawner.com/users/justfriendsdancers/
> SOUTHERN SWINGERS SQUARE DANCE CLUB, SHREVEPORT/BOSSIER CITY, LA:
> http://www.geocities.com/southern_swingers_sdc/
> JOEY'S SCHEDULE:
> http://www.webspawner.com/users/joeysschedule/
> JUBILEE IN JEFFERSON, FEBRUARY 17 - 19, 2006, WITH WADE DRIVER, JOEY,
> OTHERS:
> http://www.webspawner.com/users/jubileeinjefferson/
> CARIBBEAN CRUISE, NOVEMBER 2005, WITH JOEY, OTHERS:
> http://www.webspawner.com/users/sdcruising/
>
>
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> Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper
>
>
> > - Square Hopper bounces in time with the music.
> > - It can jump heights of 6 feet or more.
> > - Unsightly mechanical parts are covered by a fluffy petticoat.
>
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From WA8VEC at ARRL.NET Sun Jul 3 20:05:27 2005
From: WA8VEC at ARRL.NET (Mike Gormley)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:05:27 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper
In-Reply-To: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <42C87D47.5000903@ARRL.NET>
nshukayr at aol.com wrote:
> Do you ever need to be at a certain place in the square, but a
> lost clueless dancer blocks your path? It's a dilemma! You
> can't go THROUGH the obstacle. You can't go UNDER. There's
> really not much you can do ... until now! Today we proudly
> announce the new Square Hopper!
>
> Square Hopper is essentially a Pogo Stick with several important
> enhancements:
>
> - Square Hopper bounces in time with the music.
> - It can jump heights of 6 feet or more.
> - Unsightly mechanical parts are covered by a fluffy petticoat.
> ...snip...
>
> Nasser "If you can bounce, you can Square Hop" Shukayr
> San Benito, Texas
All that "hopping around" should prove popular in the "Land Down Under"!
Mike Gormley
From ljknews at mac.com Sun Jul 3 22:56:13 2005
From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:56:13 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper
In-Reply-To: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID:
At 4:28 PM -0400 7/3/05, nshukayr at aol.com wrote:
>Do you ever need to be at a certain place in the square, but a
>lost clueless dancer blocks your path? It's a dilemma! You
>can't go THROUGH the obstacle. You can't go UNDER. There's
>really not much you can do ... until now! Today we proudly
>announce the new Square Hopper!
>
>Square Hopper is essentially a Pogo Stick with several important
>enhancements:
>
>- Square Hopper bounces in time with the music.
>- It can jump heights of 6 feet or more.
>- Unsightly mechanical parts are covered by a fluffy petticoat.
As with a lot of advertising I read, this product announcement
did not seem to meet my needs. Please repost when you release
Square Hopper Executive Edition, which will automatically bounce
me to the proper position in the square, without me needing to
know what position that is !
--
Larry Kilgallen
From jmaczko at san.rr.com Tue Jul 19 08:35:17 2005
From: jmaczko at san.rr.com (Jim Maczko)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 05:35:17 -0700
Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: 54th NSDC on Jay Leno
References: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <00c001c58c5e$520aa150$61dd5d46@Jim>
This information was received from Lee and Barbi Ashwill, General Chairman
of the 54th NSDC in Portland.
Jim Maczko - Chairman of the Governing Board
ALLIANCE OF ROUND, TRADITIONAL AND SQUARE-DANCE, INC.
Post Office Box 712918
San Diego, California 92171-2918
619-295-2635
jmaczko at san.rr.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The piece on the 54th NSDC is supposed to air on the Jay Leno Show on
Wednesday, June 20, 2005.
Would you please place this information on the website and indicate that the
Tonight Show people are 75% sure that the piece will air that night.
Also, please include that the contact from the Jay Leno Show, Isaias
Centeno, would like feedback (both good and bad) from the dancers who view
this show. Please have them E-Mail him at isaias.centeno at nbc.com with a cc
to us.
Thanks and God Bless.
Love,
Lee & Barbi
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From kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com Tue Jul 19 08:43:57 2005
From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com (Ken Robinson)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:43:57 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: 54th NSDC on Jay Leno
In-Reply-To: <00c001c58c5e$520aa150$61dd5d46@Jim>
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<00c001c58c5e$520aa150$61dd5d46@Jim>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050719084222.025f60f0@mail.rbnsn.com>
At 08:35 AM 7/19/2005, Jim Maczko wrote (in part):
>This information was received from Lee and Barbi Ashwill, General
>Chairman of the 54th NSDC in Portland.
[snip]
>The piece on the 54th NSDC is supposed to air on the Jay Leno Show
>on Wednesday, June 20, 2005.
Is this supposed to read "July 20, 2005"? If not, you'll need a time
machine to see the program... :-)
Ken
From ljknews at mac.com Tue Jul 19 08:38:17 2005
From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:38:17 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: 54th NSDC on Jay Leno
In-Reply-To: <00c001c58c5e$520aa150$61dd5d46@Jim>
References: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com>
<00c001c58c5e$520aa150$61dd5d46@Jim>
Message-ID:
At 5:35 AM -0700 7/19/05, Jim Maczko quoted:
> The piece on the 54th NSDC is supposed to air on the Jay Leno Show
> on Wednesday, June 20, 2005.
Let me guess -- Ross the Intern ?
>
>Would you please place this information on the website and indicate that the Tonight Show people are 75% sure that the piece will air that night.
>
>Also, please include that the contact from the Jay Leno Show, Isaias Centeno, would like feedback (both good and bad) from the dancers who view this show. Please have them E-Mail him at isaias.centeno at nbc.com with a cc to us.
--
Larry Kilgallen
From darcygm at QNET.COM Thu Jul 21 10:31:43 2005
From: darcygm at QNET.COM (Gary M. Darcy)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:31:43 -0700
Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: 54th NSDC on Jay Leno
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20050719084222.025f60f0@mail.rbnsn.com>
References: <00c001c58c5e$520aa150$61dd5d46@Jim>
Message-ID: <42DF4F5F.6753.20E1FEC@localhost>
I guess there was both positive and negative in the way square dancing was
portrayed on the Tonight Show last night. Positive in that, despite the ribbing some
of the dancers got, they took it in stride and continued to have fun anyway. Positive
too, in that some of our younger dancers made it to camera. The negative, as I saw
it, was that the majority of dancers were up there in the years. This, in my mind,
made square dancing look like more of a senior's activity, rather than an all-age
group activity for families. And as expected, the attire appeared to come under
attack. The are just my immediate thoughts on the show.
If anyone missed it, I suspect the piece will be available in a few days on the Tonight
Show website. I can burn a copy of last night's show onto DVD for those who can't
wait.
GARY DARCY
On 19 Jul 2005 at 8:43, Ken Robinson wrote:
> At 08:35 AM 7/19/2005, Jim Maczko wrote (in part):
> >This information was received from Lee and Barbi Ashwill, General
> >Chairman of the 54th NSDC in Portland.
> [snip]
>
> >The piece on the 54th NSDC is supposed to air on the Jay Leno Show
> >on Wednesday, June 20, 2005.
>
> Is this supposed to read "July 20, 2005"? If not, you'll need a time
> machine to see the program... :-)
>
> Ken
From kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com Thu Jul 21 10:45:13 2005
From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com (Ken Robinson)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:45:13 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Went to an interesting Mainstream Dance last night
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050721103459.088ba000@mail.rbnsn.com>
Folks,
Last night (Wednesday), two mainstream clubs in Northern New Jersey
teamed up to put on an interesting dance.
Program: Mainstream
Caller: Howard Richman
Music: Live Band -- The Klezmer Mountain Boys!
You read that correctly. This was a Mainstream Dance to Live Music.
The attendance was 168 (21 squares) crammed into a hall that usually
holds about 12 square comfortably.
The digital pictures and some short videos I took can be seen at
.
BTW, this dance was well attended by dancers who dance at PLUS,
Advanced, and Challenge.
Ken Robinson
From NShukayr at aol.com Thu Jul 21 10:58:22 2005
From: NShukayr at aol.com (NShukayr at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:58:22 EDT
Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: Went to an interesting Mainstream Dance last
night
Message-ID: <143.49618b2e.3011120e@aol.com>
> This was a Mainstream Dance to Live Music.
> The attendance was 168 (21 squares) crammed into a hall
> that usually holds about 12 square comfortably.
Much of the appeal of a Live Band dance is that it is a novelty.
I'm glad they had 21 squares for their live band dance. If they
scheduled a live band dance every week, they probably would
not draw that size of a crowd every week.
So the key is to keep coming up with ways to make it novel,
different, unusual and exciting. A live band is certainly a very
effective way of accomplishing that goal.
Nasser "variety is the spice of life" Shukayr
currently in England
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From ljknews at mac.com Thu Jul 21 11:15:31 2005
From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:15:31 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: 54th NSDC on Jay Leno
In-Reply-To: <42DF4F5F.6753.20E1FEC@localhost>
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Message-ID:
At 7:31 AM -0700 7/21/05, Gary M. Darcy wrote:
>too, in that some of our younger dancers made it to camera. The negative, as I saw
>it, was that the majority of dancers were up there in the years. This, in my mind,
>made square dancing look like more of a senior's activity, rather than an all-age
>group activity for families.
Of course it was naturally the subset of square dancers who can afford
to (and choose to) travel to Oregon. For me the piece solidified my
(negative) reaction to US national square dancing conventions. Remember
those are the events that publicize that you _must_ wear funny clothes.
--
Larry Kilgallen
From lfc32 at earthlink.net Thu Jul 21 12:20:34 2005
From: lfc32 at earthlink.net (Loren Castro)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:20:34 -0700
Subject: [Squaredancing] Went to an interesting Mainstream Dance last night
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20050721103459.088ba000@mail.rbnsn.com>
References: <6.2.3.4.2.20050721103459.088ba000@mail.rbnsn.com>
Message-ID: <42DFCB52.9090600@earthlink.net>
Good news, Ken. (I hope The Klezmer Mountain Boys aren't so loud as the
Ghost Riders.)
lfc
-----
Ken Robinson wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Last night (Wednesday), two mainstream clubs in Northern New Jersey
> teamed up to put on an interesting dance.
>
> Program: Mainstream
> Caller: Howard Richman
> Music: Live Band -- The Klezmer Mountain Boys!
>
> You read that correctly. This was a Mainstream Dance to Live Music.
> The attendance was 168 (21 squares) crammed into a hall that usually
> holds about 12 square comfortably.
>
> The digital pictures and some short videos I took can be seen at
> .
>
>
> BTW, this dance was well attended by dancers who dance at PLUS,
> Advanced, and Challenge.
>
> Ken Robinson
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From Anniebplus at aol.com Thu Jul 21 12:26:40 2005
From: Anniebplus at aol.com (Anniebplus at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:26:40 EDT
Subject: [Squaredancing] Went to an interesting Mainstream Dance last night
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I liked the Ghost Riders. I guess it's truly "to each his own."
AB
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From ljknews at mac.com Thu Jul 21 12:37:59 2005
From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:37:59 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Went to an interesting Mainstream Dance last night
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Message-ID:
At 12:26 PM -0400 7/21/05, Anniebplus at aol.com wrote:
> I liked the Ghost Riders. I guess it's truly "to each his own."
Even with non-live music, I know dancers who choose "closer to the speaker"
or "further from the speaker" depending on personal preferences.
--
Larry Kilgallen
From BOBBSHARP at aol.com Thu Jul 21 13:17:14 2005
From: BOBBSHARP at aol.com (BOBBSHARP at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:17:14 EDT
Subject: [Squaredancing] Jay Leno show
Message-ID: <1e2.407712b3.3011329a@aol.com>
I was (not unexpectedly) disappointed in the coverage of our National
Convention. It was simply a sad testimonial of how the general public views our
activity.
It started with Jay announcing this spoof as being at the National Square
Dance 'Competition' and only a brief reference was made to the fact that folks
came from all 50 states and numerous foreign countries. Unfortunately, the
interviewer felt the only way to make this piece funny was to bring sexiual
inuendo into most interviews. The glimpse of a hairy-legged cross-dresser in a
square dance skirt certainly didn't help.
The only funny comment I heard was from a lady dancer who, when asked what
dress size she wore answered, 'Fat'.
The interviewer even had to bring in racial overtones while talking to a
nice looking black man (unfortunately wearing a T-shirt and a hat) by asking him
if he knew he was black and implying that none of these white people would
dance with him.
The scenes of her struggling through a square dance were a poorly edited
depiction of a non-dancer. What a surprise when she exclaims, "I've got it"
after finally mastering that difficult call, "Circle Left".
The payoff came with the potrayal of her seemingly being bodily thrown to
the floor. That was a definate cheap shot. Slap stick comedy came to a new low -
please, fade to Jay Leno in Hollywood.
All in all, I seriously doubt that Jay's audience will consider this as any
more than two minutes of ho-hum Leno.
Bob Brundage - Albuquerque with roots still firmly in New England
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From kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com Thu Jul 21 13:27:20 2005
From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com (Ken Robinson)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:27:20 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Jay Leno show
In-Reply-To: <1e2.407712b3.3011329a@aol.com>
References: <1e2.407712b3.3011329a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050721132704.07bfdca0@mail.rbnsn.com>
At 01:12 PM 7/21/2005, BOBBSHARP at aol.com wrote:
>I was (not unexpectedly) disappointed in the coverage of our National
>Convention. It was simply a sad testimonial of how the general
>public views our
>activity.
>
Have the folks who have posted their comments here, followed the
request to send them to NBC?
>Also, please include that the contact from the Jay Leno Show, Isaias
>Centeno, would like feedback (both good and bad) from the dancers who view
>this show. Please have them E-mail him at
I taped the show last night, but have not watched it yet...
Ken
From Anniebplus at aol.com Thu Jul 21 13:34:37 2005
From: Anniebplus at aol.com (Anniebplus at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:34:37 EDT
Subject: [Squaredancing] Jay Leno show
Message-ID:
This wasn't meant to be an in-depth piece on square dancing. From the email
that we received prior to the show, one should have realized that it was
going to be a spoof. I don't think it really matters what the public see as
long as they see square dancers...having fun, living longer lives and not
necessarily wearing "funny clothes."
Anne from Phoenix with less strong roots to MA
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From: MLMaag at perkinscoie.com (Maag, Mary Lou)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:36:30 -0700
Subject: [Squaredancing] Jay Leno show
Message-ID: <73D41346804B4341A8E259260D5ADC330BBDA8@SEASMAIL03.perkinscoie.root.loc>
I realize this was not the point of the reviewer's comment, and I
haven't yet seen the bit, but I am seriously curious to know why one
reviewer said that it was "unfortunate" that one of the interviewees was
wearing a t-shirt and a hat.
>From what I've read so far, it seems there was some fun made of
"traditional" square dance clothes. None of us can be truly surprised
by that.
Seems to me showing a person in ordinary street clothes would be a
positive thing, so far as clothes go. Again, I realize that was not the
point of the reviewer's comment.
Mary Lou
quote:
The interviewer even had to bring in racial overtones while talking to
a nice looking black man (unfortunately wearing a T-shirt and a hat) by
asking him if he knew he was black and implying that none of these white
people would dance with him.
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From LKJ at DJJ.com Thu Jul 21 14:14:58 2005
From: LKJ at DJJ.com (Linda Jones - LKJ)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:14:58 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] funny clothes
Message-ID:
I took up dancing 25 years ago and one of the things I loved were the pretty
outfits. Now it been reduced "funny clothes".
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From ljknews at mac.com Thu Jul 21 14:18:35 2005
From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:18:35 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] funny clothes
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
At 2:14 PM -0400 7/21/05, Linda Jones - LKJ wrote:
> I took up dancing 25 years ago and one of the things I loved
> were the pretty outfits. Now it been reduced "funny clothes".
Particularly by those (including my wife) who dislike the concept.
But we have only been square dancing 4 years, so in some areas the
times have changed.
Asking people to shell out money for a special wardrobe and also
for more than 20 weeks of lessons is double trouble. I prefer to
be with people who can dance rather than wear fancy costumes, but
I have met many of the opposite capability.
--
Larry Kilgallen
From Anniebplus at aol.com Thu Jul 21 16:46:12 2005
From: Anniebplus at aol.com (Anniebplus at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:46:12 EDT
Subject: [Squaredancing] funny clothes
Message-ID: <1b8.17968907.30116394@aol.com>
I really prefer dancing in "costume." It's so much prettier when your
twirled or spinned and the "skirt work" is there. But, living in AZ, with days in
the 115 degrees, dancing without petticoat and pettipants is definitely a
plus.
I think people should be allowed to wear what they'd like...within reason.
It's still a dance and should be appropriately dressed. Besides that, it's
the fun that matters and that will keep people dancing and attract new dancers.
Anne
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From ljknews at mac.com Thu Jul 21 16:53:13 2005
From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:53:13 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] funny clothes
In-Reply-To: <1b8.17968907.30116394@aol.com>
References: <1b8.17968907.30116394@aol.com>
Message-ID:
At 4:46 PM -0400 7/21/05, Anniebplus at aol.com wrote:
> I think people should be allowed to wear what they'd like...
Exactly. What I object to is social pressures to conform to a particular
dress code.
> within reason. It's still a dance and should be appropriately dressed.
The place where I get the best dancing has most people wearing T shirts.
> Besides that, it's the fun that matters and that will keep people
> dancing and attract new dancers.
Not if the dress code (real or apparent) scares them away first.
--
Larry Kilgallen
From squarekopp at gmx.de Thu Jul 21 17:24:18 2005
From: squarekopp at gmx.de (squarekopp at gmx.de)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 23:24:18 +0200 (MEST)
Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: funny clothes
Message-ID: <31640.1121981058@www49.gmx.net>
> a nice looking black man (unfortunately wearing a T-shirt and a hat)
When Mr. Carter was President, he had a square dance party at the White
House. I remember some very dis- (-gusted? -apointed? at least dis-senting)
letters to American Square Dance Magazine how Mr. President dared to dance
in a short-sleeved shirt.
Sorry for my terrible memory
Heiner Fischle
Hannover, Germany
From dave at daveswebplace.net Thu Jul 21 19:43:18 2005
From: dave at daveswebplace.net (Dave)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:43:18 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: funny clothes
In-Reply-To: <31640.1121981058@www49.gmx.net>
Message-ID:
For those that don't remember, Jimmy Carter was a square dancer prior to
running for Governor, and then President. I had the good fortune to dance
in a square with him at the 1st Georgia State Square Dance Convention. He
had taken time out from campaigning for Governor to stop and dance a couple
tips. I can't remember if he was wearing a long or short sleeve shirt at
the time:-)
Dave Hinde
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com
> [mailto:Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf Of
> squarekopp at gmx.de
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 5:24 PM
> To: Squaredancing at rbnsn.com
> Cc: sd-callers at all8.com
> Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: funny clothes
>
> > a nice looking black man (unfortunately wearing a T-shirt and a hat)
>
> When Mr. Carter was President, he had a square dance party at
> the White House. I remember some very dis- (-gusted?
> -apointed? at least dis-senting) letters to American Square
> Dance Magazine how Mr. President dared to dance in a
> short-sleeved shirt.
>
> Sorry for my terrible memory
> Heiner Fischle
> Hannover, Germany
>
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From James.W.Spinks.1 at arczip.com Fri Jul 22 05:42:27 2005
From: James.W.Spinks.1 at arczip.com (James W. Spinks)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 05:42:27 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] RE: [Square-dancing] Re: funny clothes
In-Reply-To: <200507212344.j6LNiJJi014628@myrmidon.mailrover.net>
Message-ID:
Group,
I have been a SD'r (Square Dancer) since Sept. 1966 when I
was a Junior in HS. Below describes how I became a square
dancer.
A classmate introduced me and several other classmates to it
via a first nighter. She (the classmate) asked me a several others to
party on a Friday night a couple of weeks down the road, that she
was going to attend.
I asked her how'd I get to it as I didn't drive yet (at a rec. center
in Wheaton Md) 9 or 10 miles from the HS we attended. She said she
and her older brother who drove, would pick us up and take us to it.
My classmate and her brother showed up in his 1962 Ford Falcon
in "Funny Clothes/Outfits" (Square Dance attire...didn't know it was
a square dance first nighter) I was shocked, ask her if it was a
costume party and had she forgotten to tell me. She said "No", I
would see what was going on when I got to the rec center. It was
a first nighter for the "Teen" square dance club she and her brother
belonged to. Also her brother was one of the club's 3 teen callers.
The Square Dance attire adds to the fun of square dancing. The thing
I most HATE is people who show up in BLUE JEANS and Blue Jean Shirts.
I have seen BOTH Men and Women at dances in BLUE JEANS. A matter of
fact there are TWO couples in one of my clubs that have several MATCHING
Blue JEAN outfits with "TIE-DYE" patches on the knees and elbows and
pockets of the jeans and shirts.
The WHOLE purpose of Square Dancing attire is to eliminate the FALSE
impression that MOST Americans have that Square Dance is a Back Road
Rural "HICK" activity.
To Relate other story tied to the "HICK" mentally associated with Square
Dancing. The various teen clubs in Metro Washington DC area at that time
(mid to late 1960's) would sponsor Spring and Fall Teen Festivals, usually
the Spring one would be held in the Maryland suburbs and the Fall one
in the Northern Virginia suburbs at a local junior high or high school gym.
One occasion the school custodian staff had covered the gym floor with
hay and instead of pulling out the bleacher stand/seats had place piles
of hay bales. When the custodian was asked what was going on, he said
he was helping us "decorate the place" because "Square Dancing is done
in a Farmer's barn"
The other thing I hate is when TV stations deride Square Dancing as
"HICK". To get more people into Modern Western SD we need to educate
the Media and the Public that Square Dancing is NOT repeat NOT a HICK
activity. Also the public schools systems in this country usually
use "Classic" (Virginia Reel, Turkey in the Straw, etc) music when
and if they have square dancing as part of the PE class requirement
for dancing.
Paul Hartman, a well know local square dance caller in the Wash. DC. and
Suburban Md. area worked as Volunteer, with the Montgomery County Rec.
Department and the County's schools to attempt to use Mod. West. Square
Dancing in the Junior and Senior High Schools PE program.
Happy Square Dancing,
Jim Spinks
-----Original Message-----
From: Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com
[mailto:Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com]On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 7:43 PM
To: 'This list for discussing all aspect of MWSD'
Subject: RE: [Squaredancing] Re: funny clothes
For those that don't remember, Jimmy Carter was a square dancer prior to
running for Governor, and then President. I had the good fortune to dance
in a square with him at the 1st Georgia State Square Dance Convention. He
had taken time out from campaigning for Governor to stop and dance a couple
tips. I can't remember if he was wearing a long or short sleeve shirt at
the time:-)
Dave Hinde
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com
> [mailto:Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf Of
> squarekopp at gmx.de
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 5:24 PM
> To: Squaredancing at rbnsn.com
> Cc: sd-callers at all8.com
> Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: funny clothes
>
> > a nice looking black man (unfortunately wearing a T-shirt and a hat)
>
> When Mr. Carter was President, he had a square dance party at
> the White House. I remember some very dis- (-gusted?
> -apointed? at least dis-senting) letters to American Square
> Dance Magazine how Mr. President dared to dance in a
> short-sleeved shirt.
>
> Sorry for my terrible memory
> Heiner Fischle
> Hannover, Germany
>
> _______________________________________________
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From James.W.Spinks.1 at arczip.com Fri Jul 22 05:49:33 2005
From: James.W.Spinks.1 at arczip.com (James W. Spinks)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 05:49:33 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: 54th NSDC on Jay Leno
In-Reply-To: <42DF4F5F.6753.20E1FEC@localhost>
Message-ID:
Gary,
Yes burn it on a DVD. I missed it last night. When I contacted my
local NBC station they said they didn't expect it would be repeated
any time soon.
Let me know when you have burned a copy on a DVD.
Square Dancingly Yours,
Jim Spinks
Jim.W.Spinks.1 at arczip.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com
[mailto:Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com]On Behalf Of Gary M. Darcy
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:32 AM
To: This list for discussing all aspect of MWSD
Subject: Re: [Squaredancing] Re: 54th NSDC on Jay Leno
I guess there was both positive and negative in the way square dancing was
portrayed on the Tonight Show last night. Positive in that, despite the
ribbing some
of the dancers got, they took it in stride and continued to have fun
anyway. Positive
too, in that some of our younger dancers made it to camera. The negative,
as I saw
it, was that the majority of dancers were up there in the years. This, in
my mind,
made square dancing look like more of a senior's activity, rather than an
all-age
group activity for families. And as expected, the attire appeared to come
under
attack. The are just my immediate thoughts on the show.
If anyone missed it, I suspect the piece will be available in a few days on
the Tonight
Show website. I can burn a copy of last night's show onto DVD for those
who can't
wait.
GARY DARCY
On 19 Jul 2005 at 8:43, Ken Robinson wrote:
> At 08:35 AM 7/19/2005, Jim Maczko wrote (in part):
> >This information was received from Lee and Barbi Ashwill, General
> >Chairman of the 54th NSDC in Portland.
> [snip]
>
> >The piece on the 54th NSDC is supposed to air on the Jay Leno Show
> >on Wednesday, June 20, 2005.
>
> Is this supposed to read "July 20, 2005"? If not, you'll need a time
> machine to see the program... :-)
>
> Ken
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From ljknews at mac.com Fri Jul 22 08:56:35 2005
From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:56:35 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] RE: [Square-dancing] Re: funny clothes
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
At 5:42 AM -0400 7/22/05, James W. Spinks wrote:
>Group,
>
>I have been a SD'r (Square Dancer) since Sept. 1966 when I
>was a Junior in HS. Below describes how I became a square
>dancer.
>The Square Dance attire adds to the fun of square dancing. The thing
>I most HATE is people who show up in BLUE JEANS and Blue Jean Shirts.
>I have seen BOTH Men and Women at dances in BLUE JEANS. A matter of
>fact there are TWO couples in one of my clubs that have several MATCHING
>Blue JEAN outfits with "TIE-DYE" patches on the knees and elbows and
>pockets of the jeans and shirts.
>
>The WHOLE purpose of Square Dancing attire is to eliminate the FALSE
>impression that MOST Americans have that Square Dance is a Back Road
>Rural "HICK" activity.
That is an interesting historical look at the origin of the funny clothes.
In the Boston area many people have never even seen a farm up close.
Overcoming the idea that it is a lot of work to go to a square dance
(as distinguished from a lot of work to square dance) has become a
more important need. Remember, we are competing with activities where
people do not even have to leave their home.
--
Larry Kilgallen
From ljknews at mac.com Fri Jul 22 09:21:16 2005
From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:21:16 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] RE: [Square-dancing] Re: funny clothes
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
At 8:56 AM -0400 7/22/05, ljknews wrote:
>At 5:42 AM -0400 7/22/05, James W. Spinks wrote:
>>Group,
>>
>>I have been a SD'r (Square Dancer) since Sept. 1966 when I
>>was a Junior in HS. Below describes how I became a square
>>dancer.
>
>
>>The Square Dance attire adds to the fun of square dancing. The thing
>>I most HATE is people who show up in BLUE JEANS and Blue Jean Shirts.
>>I have seen BOTH Men and Women at dances in BLUE JEANS. A matter of
>>fact there are TWO couples in one of my clubs that have several MATCHING
>>Blue JEAN outfits with "TIE-DYE" patches on the knees and elbows and
>>pockets of the jeans and shirts.
>>
>>The WHOLE purpose of Square Dancing attire is to eliminate the FALSE
>>impression that MOST Americans have that Square Dance is a Back Road
>>Rural "HICK" activity.
>
>That is an interesting historical look at the origin of the funny clothes.
>
>In the Boston area many people have never even seen a farm up close.
>Overcoming the idea that it is a lot of work to go to a square dance
>(as distinguished from a lot of work to square dance) has become a
>more important need. Remember, we are competing with activities where
>people do not even have to leave their home.
I apologize for not getting this into my earlier post, but to urban
folks today, the "funny clothes" coupled with the "hick" reputation
of square dancing make people think those clothes are farmer style
clothing.
--
Larry Kilgallen
From brucemorgan at earthlink.net Fri Jul 22 16:06:43 2005
From: brucemorgan at earthlink.net (Bruce)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:06:43 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Jay Leno
Message-ID: <002f01c58ef8$e1910b60$6c01a8c0@Bruce>
If you would like to see the video of the Square Dance Convention on the Jay
Leno Show please go to this web site and click on the Featured Video. It
will take you the current video if it is past the time frame for the square
dance video it will still be listed as one of the recent past events. It
takes a long time to load, especially if you have dial-up.
http://www.nbc.com/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno/index.shtml
Click on the square dance picture and it will bring up the video. You have
to have Windows Media Player installed on your machine.
Bruce
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From dave at daveswebplace.net Fri Jul 22 22:21:06 2005
From: dave at daveswebplace.net (dave.hinde)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:21:06 -0400
Subject: Spam:*****, [Squaredancing] Jay Leno
In-Reply-To: <002f01c58ef8$e1910b60$6c01a8c0@Bruce>
Message-ID: <1122085259_25343@rcmdxmail02>
It's now been moved to
http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno/correspondents/
Dave
_____
From: Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com
[mailto:Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:07 PM
To: Square Dance Group; Square Dance Caller Group
Subject: Spam:*****, [Squaredancing] Jay Leno
If you would like to see the video of the Square Dance Convention on the Jay
Leno Show please go to this web site and click on the Featured Video. It
will take you the current video if it is past the time frame for the square
dance video it will still be listed as one of the recent past events. It
takes a long time to load, especially if you have dial-up.
http://www.nbc.com/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno/index.shtml
Click on the square dance picture and it will bring up the video. You have
to have Windows Media Player installed on your machine.
Bruce
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From James.W.Spinks.1 at arczip.com Sat Jul 23 09:20:21 2005
From: James.W.Spinks.1 at arczip.com (James W. Spinks)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 09:20:21 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Jay Leno
In-Reply-To: <002f01c58ef8$e1910b60$6c01a8c0@Bruce>
Message-ID:
Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com
[mailto:Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com]On Behalf Of Bruce
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:07 PM
To: Square Dance Group; Square Dance Caller Group
Subject: [Squaredancing] Jay Leno
If you would like to see the video of the Square Dance Convention on the
Jay Leno Show please go to this web site and click on the Featured Video.
It will take you the current video if it is past the time frame for the
square dance video it will still be listed as one of the recent past events.
It takes a long time to load, especially if you have dial-up.
http://www.nbc.com/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno/index.shtml
Click on the square dance picture and it will bring up the video. You
have to have Windows Media Player installed on your machine.
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From lfc32 at earthlink.net Sun Jul 24 13:08:16 2005
From: lfc32 at earthlink.net (Loren Castro)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:08:16 -0700
Subject: [Squaredancing] RE: [Square-dancing] Re: funny clothes
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <42E3CB00.8060803@earthlink.net>
I wrote the next two paragraphs a few years ago after another purist
sounded off about proper square dance attire. They are the last two
paragraphs of my little tirade.
====================
Third, I wear jeans to all dances. Sometimes they are brown, sometimes
they are black, and sometimes they are white. Sometimes they are dark
blue, and sometimes they are light blue. I have worn jeans to many
previous Golden State Roundups, to Silver State, to USA West, to Las
Vegas, to Bakersfield, to Tulare, to Turlock, and to other smaller
festivals. I wore jeans the last time the National Convention was in
Anaheim, and I WILL wear jeans to Anaheim in 2001. Nobody has ever
suggested that I was not "properly attired" or tried to remove me.
Lighten up about "proper attire" or suffer a further decline in the
number of dancers.
====================
A local caller (Hi, Eric) teases me about this occasionally.
I thought I remembered that Nasser Shukayr had written one of his wicked
little satires about this subject. I save everything he posts here, but
either my memory fails me (again) or I just didn't save this one. Maybe
he'll come up with something.
lfc
-----
James W. Spinks wrote:
>Group,
>
>I have been a SD'r (Square Dancer) since Sept. 1966 when I
>was a Junior in HS. Below describes how I became a square
>dancer.
>
>A classmate introduced me and several other classmates to it
>via a first nighter. She (the classmate) asked me a several others to
>party on a Friday night a couple of weeks down the road, that she
>was going to attend.
>
>I asked her how'd I get to it as I didn't drive yet (at a rec. center
>in Wheaton Md) 9 or 10 miles from the HS we attended. She said she
>and her older brother who drove, would pick us up and take us to it.
>My classmate and her brother showed up in his 1962 Ford Falcon
>in "Funny Clothes/Outfits" (Square Dance attire...didn't know it was
>a square dance first nighter) I was shocked, ask her if it was a
>costume party and had she forgotten to tell me. She said "No", I
>would see what was going on when I got to the rec center. It was
>a first nighter for the "Teen" square dance club she and her brother
>belonged to. Also her brother was one of the club's 3 teen callers.
>
>The Square Dance attire adds to the fun of square dancing. The thing
>I most HATE is people who show up in BLUE JEANS and Blue Jean Shirts.
>I have seen BOTH Men and Women at dances in BLUE JEANS. A matter of
>fact there are TWO couples in one of my clubs that have several MATCHING
>Blue JEAN outfits with "TIE-DYE" patches on the knees and elbows and
>pockets of the jeans and shirts.
>
>The WHOLE purpose of Square Dancing attire is to eliminate the FALSE
>impression that MOST Americans have that Square Dance is a Back Road
>Rural "HICK" activity.
>
>
>
>
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From kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com Sun Jul 24 13:24:02 2005
From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com (Ken Robinson)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:24:02 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Helena Robinson's Health
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050724132126.02ff17b8@mail.rbnsn.com>
All,
I don't know how many of you are subscribed to our email list for
Helena's health.
Many of you know us and know that my wife, Helena, has been battling
cancer since 1981. Her condition took a turn for the worse this
summer and she is now very sick.
To read more, please go to . You can
also sign up for the mailing list there.
Ken Robnson
From caller at 3g.quik.com Sun Jul 24 13:50:52 2005
From: caller at 3g.quik.com (JOEY DUHAMEL)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:50:52 -0500
Subject: [Squaredancing] RE: [Square-dancing] Re: funny clothes
References:
<42E3CB00.8060803@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001101c59078$3f020760$5ecad1d1@computer>
I have about 8 pairs of knit western pants. I can only wear 2 pairs now
(somehow most of them shrunk). I wear jeans to most of my dances, whether
I'm calling or dancing. I at least try and choose the ones that look nice. I
only wear a tie (bolo) about 1/4 of the time, and almost never wear a jacket
(although I have 7).
JOEY AND BEVERLEY DUHAMEL
JUST FRIENDS SQUARE DANCE CLUB, MONROE, LA:
http://www.webspawner.com/users/justfriendsdancers/
SOUTHERN SWINGERS SQUARE DANCE CLUB, SHREVEPORT/BOSSIER CITY, LA:
http://www.geocities.com/southern_swingers_sdc/
JOEY'S SCHEDULE:
http://www.webspawner.com/users/joeysschedule/
JUBILEE IN JEFFERSON, FEBRUARY 17 - 19, 2006, WITH WADE DRIVER, JOEY,
OTHERS:
http://www.webspawner.com/users/jubileeinjefferson/
CARIBBEAN CRUISE, NOVEMBER 2005, WITH JOEY, OTHERS:
http://www.webspawner.com/users/sdcruising/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Loren Castro"
To: "This list for discussing all aspect of MWSD"
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Squaredancing] RE: [Square-dancing] Re: funny clothes
> I wrote the next two paragraphs a few years ago after another purist
> sounded off about proper square dance attire. They are the last two
> paragraphs of my little tirade.
> ====================
> Third, I wear jeans to all dances. Sometimes they are brown, sometimes
> they are black, and sometimes they are white. Sometimes they are dark
> blue, and sometimes they are light blue. I have worn jeans to many
> previous Golden State Roundups, to Silver State, to USA West, to Las
> Vegas, to Bakersfield, to Tulare, to Turlock, and to other smaller
> festivals. I wore jeans the last time the National Convention was in
> Anaheim, and I WILL wear jeans to Anaheim in 2001. Nobody has ever
> suggested that I was not "properly attired" or tried to remove me.
>
> Lighten up about "proper attire" or suffer a further decline in the
> number of dancers.
> ====================
> A local caller (Hi, Eric) teases me about this occasionally.
>
> I thought I remembered that Nasser Shukayr had written one of his wicked
> little satires about this subject. I save everything he posts here, but
> either my memory fails me (again) or I just didn't save this one. Maybe
> he'll come up with something.
>
> lfc
> -----
> James W. Spinks wrote:
>
> >Group,
> >
> >I have been a SD'r (Square Dancer) since Sept. 1966 when I
> >was a Junior in HS. Below describes how I became a square
> >dancer.
> >
> >A classmate introduced me and several other classmates to it
> >via a first nighter. She (the classmate) asked me a several others to
> >party on a Friday night a couple of weeks down the road, that she
> >was going to attend.
> >
> >I asked her how'd I get to it as I didn't drive yet (at a rec. center
> >in Wheaton Md) 9 or 10 miles from the HS we attended. She said she
> >and her older brother who drove, would pick us up and take us to it.
> >My classmate and her brother showed up in his 1962 Ford Falcon
> >in "Funny Clothes/Outfits" (Square Dance attire...didn't know it was
> >a square dance first nighter) I was shocked, ask her if it was a
> >costume party and had she forgotten to tell me. She said "No", I
> >would see what was going on when I got to the rec center. It was
> >a first nighter for the "Teen" square dance club she and her brother
> >belonged to. Also her brother was one of the club's 3 teen callers.
> >
> >The Square Dance attire adds to the fun of square dancing. The thing
> >I most HATE is people who show up in BLUE JEANS and Blue Jean Shirts.
> >I have seen BOTH Men and Women at dances in BLUE JEANS. A matter of
> >fact there are TWO couples in one of my clubs that have several MATCHING
> >Blue JEAN outfits with "TIE-DYE" patches on the knees and elbows and
> >pockets of the jeans and shirts.
> >
> >The WHOLE purpose of Square Dancing attire is to eliminate the FALSE
> >impression that MOST Americans have that Square Dance is a Back Road
> >Rural "HICK" activity.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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From squarekopp at gmx.de Mon Jul 25 16:53:29 2005
From: squarekopp at gmx.de (squarekopp at gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:53:29 +0200 (MEST)
Subject: [Squaredancing] Paul Hartman (was funny clothes)
Message-ID: <25398.1122324809@www49.gmx.net>
James W. Spinks (James.W.Spinks.1 at arczip.com) mentioned
>>>
Paul Hartman, a well know local square dance caller in the Wash. DC. and
Suburban Md. area worked as Volunteer, with the Montgomery County Rec.
Department and the County's schools to attempt to use Mod. West. Square
Dancing in the Junior and Senior High Schools PE program.
<<<
And he also brought Square Dancing to Germany.
Yours squarely
Heiner Fischle
Hannover, Germany
From kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com Mon Jul 25 23:47:32 2005
From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com (Ken Robinson)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:47:32 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Helena
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050725234618.02f9cc68@mail.rbnsn.com>
Hi,
I don't know if you recieved the word, but Helena passed away at
10:40 am this morning. The funeral is Tuesday, July 26, 2005 at 3:00
PM at Temple Beth Shalom, 1315 Whitty Road, Toms River, NJ 08753.
After the funeral, food will provided at the my parents' home at 1450
Old Freehold Road, Toms River, NJ 08753. Shiva will be at Helena's
sister's, Judy Newland, home at 1958 Silverton Road, Toms River, NJ 08753.
For directions to the funeral, you can use your favorite mapping
program or
to use Google Maps.
According to Jewish Tradition, please do not send flowers. If you
wish to contribute something in her name, please send your contributions to:
Adenoid Cystic Carcinoma Organization International
P.O. Box 15482
San Diego, CA 92175-5482
You can also contribute on line at
.
Ken
From caller at 3g.quik.com Tue Jul 26 00:15:49 2005
From: caller at 3g.quik.com (JOEY DUHAMEL)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:15:49 -0500
Subject: [Squaredancing] Helena
References: <6.2.3.4.2.20050725234618.02f9cc68@mail.rbnsn.com>
Message-ID: <001001c59198$b6798180$61cad1d1@computer>
Ken,
I don't recall if I've ever met you or Helena, but my, and Beverley's, heart
goes out to you. You are in our prayers and thoughts. It's been a long
battle for you, we know. God bless you.
JOEY AND BEVERLEY DUHAMEL
JUST FRIENDS SQUARE DANCE CLUB, MONROE, LA:
http://www.webspawner.com/users/justfriendsdancers/
SOUTHERN SWINGERS SQUARE DANCE CLUB, SHREVEPORT/BOSSIER CITY, LA:
http://www.geocities.com/southern_swingers_sdc/
JOEY'S SCHEDULE:
http://www.webspawner.com/users/joeysschedule/
JUBILEE IN JEFFERSON, FEBRUARY 17 - 19, 2006, WITH WADE DRIVER, JOEY,
OTHERS:
http://www.webspawner.com/users/jubileeinjefferson/
CARIBBEAN CRUISE, NOVEMBER 2005, WITH JOEY, OTHERS:
http://www.webspawner.com/users/sdcruising/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Robinson"
To:
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:47 PM
Subject: [Squaredancing] Helena
> Hi,
>
> I don't know if you recieved the word, but Helena passed away at
> 10:40 am this morning. The funeral is Tuesday, July 26, 2005 at 3:00
> PM at Temple Beth Shalom, 1315 Whitty Road, Toms River, NJ 08753.
> After the funeral, food will provided at the my parents' home at 1450
> Old Freehold Road, Toms River, NJ 08753. Shiva will be at Helena's
> sister's, Judy Newland, home at 1958 Silverton Road, Toms River, NJ 08753.
>
> For directions to the funeral, you can use your favorite mapping
> program or
>
> to use Google Maps.
>
> According to Jewish Tradition, please do not send flowers. If you
> wish to contribute something in her name, please send your contributions
to:
>
> Adenoid Cystic Carcinoma Organization International
> P.O. Box 15482
> San Diego, CA 92175-5482
>
> You can also contribute on line at
> .
>
> Ken
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Squaredancing at rbnsn.com
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From wclaytor at hotmail.com Tue Jul 26 07:43:40 2005
From: wclaytor at hotmail.com (W Claytor)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:43:40 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Helena
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From ljknews at mac.com Wed Jul 27 13:03:57 2005
From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:03:57 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: [sd-callers] Re: funny clothes
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At 12:30 PM -0400 7/27/05, Carol Tapp wrote:
> I was turned off at the beginning when Jay said it was a square dance
> competition. Often when we tell people that we've been to a square dance,
> they ask if we won. We tell them it isn't a competition. Maybe we should
> make it into a competitive "sport." More people might be interested and
> work harder at being good dancers if it were!
On the contrary, I believe the notion that it is a competition give one
a great opportunity to launch into a full description of square dancing.
Except for teen clubs in the Pacific Northwest, where it _is_ a competition.
--
Larry Kilgallen
From cmbaker at tiac.net Wed Jul 27 20:35:36 2005
From: cmbaker at tiac.net (Clark Baker)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:35:36 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: 54th NSDC on Jay Leno
In-Reply-To:
References: <00c001c58c5e$520aa150$61dd5d46@Jim>
<42DF4F5F.6753.20E1FEC@localhost>
Message-ID: <8c091fc3f95a65f7f62880993098aad9@tiac.net>
On Jul 21, 2005, at 11:15 AM, ljknews wrote:
> Of course it was naturally the subset of square dancers who can afford
> to (and choose to) travel to Oregon. For me the piece solidified my
> (negative) reaction to US national square dancing conventions.
I don't believe it is fair to judge how well you would be entertained
at a National Convention by the Jay Leno coverage, especially since
their goal is to poke fun at the event.
I have attended 4 recent Nationals and expect to attend at least the
next 3. Each is different, and at each I find ways to be entertained.
Sometimes it is watching the exhibition dancers, sometimes it is
attending the seminars. Other times it is dancing in the contra or
Advanced or Challenge halls. Often it is dancing with younger dancers
who "get" it. Finally, closing out each evening with 2 hours of Plus
hexagons is fun.
If you can't have fun at a National, it is hard to see where you can
have fun.
> Remember those are the events that publicize that you _must_ wear
> funny clothes.
I haven't been excluded from a National wearing what I wear to most
contra dances. I usually try to wear a western shirt each evening.
Of course, if the travel and staying expense is too much, you should
choose your dance events. Certainly the dance fee for Nationals is
reasonable.
--
Clark Baker, Belmont, MA
cmbaker at tiac.net
From cmbaker at tiac.net Wed Jul 27 23:15:16 2005
From: cmbaker at tiac.net (Clark Baker)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:15:16 -0400
Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: Went to an interesting Mainstream Dance last
night
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My daughter and I just returned from the Rocky Mountain Magic Plus
Weekend (http://www.squaredancing.com/bearmiller/plusweekend/) in
Denver. In addition to a staff of 4 callers they had 2 additional
caller. The special part was that both evening dances had music
provided by The Ghost Riders.
I had danced to tis band at various National Conventions. In that
venue I find the overall experience a little loud, a little crowded,
and mostly everyone does singing calls (ok, but I want something
different after a while).
At RMM the callers did both patter and singing calls with the band. I
found the overall experience enjoyable and high energy, and the over 40
squares in attendance must have agreed. I understand that they will do
it again next year.
--
Clark Baker, Belmont, MA
cmbaker at tiac.net