From MLMaag at perkinscoie.com Fri Jul 1 19:27:57 2005 From: MLMaag at perkinscoie.com (Maag, Mary Lou) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 16:27:57 -0700 Subject: [Squaredancing] NEC Message-ID: <73D41346804B4341A8E259260D5ADC330BBC50@SEASMAIL03.perkinscoie.root.loc> It's my experience that the various committees putting on the national conventions in recent years have felt themselves constrained by the NEC to varying degrees. I have looked at http://nationalsquaredanceconvention.com/ . I see that if one is an organization interested in bidding to have a national convention, at some point the NEC will/ may send you a copy of the Guidelines. What I would like to know is whether it is at all possible for a dancer interested in participating in national conventions in the future could somehow get or review a copy of the NEC guidelines. Does anyone have access to a copy they would let me review? Mary Lou Seattle NOTICE: This communication may contain privileged or other confidential information. 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URL: From brucemorgan at earthlink.net Fri Jul 1 22:58:12 2005 From: brucemorgan at earthlink.net (Bruce) Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:58:12 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] NEC In-Reply-To: <73D41346804B4341A8E259260D5ADC330BBC50@SEASMAIL03.perkinscoie.root.loc> Message-ID: <008001c57eb1$e33b6980$7001a8c0@Bruce> The NEC web page is located at: http://www.nationalsquaredanceconvention.com/ At this site it has a list of all the members of the NEC and their positions. You can ask them if they will send you a copy of the guidelines. I am sure that they will provide you one. Harry & Pat Nelson; 2003 - Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, are probably the ones that you should ask first. If they cannot then try some of the others. Good luck, Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com [mailto:Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf Of Maag, Mary Lou Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 7:28 PM To: This list for discussing all aspect of MWSD Subject: [Squaredancing] NEC It's my experience that the various committees putting on the national conventions in recent years have felt themselves constrained by the NEC to varying degrees. I have looked at http://nationalsquaredanceconvention.com/. I see that if one is an organization interested in bidding to have a national convention, at some point the NEC will/ may send you a copy of the Guidelines. What I would like to know is whether it is at all possible for a dancer interested in participating in national conventions in the future could somehow get or review a copy of the NEC guidelines. Does anyone have access to a copy they would let me review? 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Square Hopper is essentially a Pogo Stick with several important enhancements: - Square Hopper bounces in time with the music. - It can jump heights of 6 feet or more. - Unsightly mechanical parts are covered by a fluffy petticoat. With Square Hopper you can go directly to your correct ending position by bouncing OVER anyone in your way. Just imagine! No more bumping into people. No more saying "Pardon me" which might cause you to miss the next call. With Square Hopper, the right spot is just a hop away! What if two dancers in a square both have Square Hoppers? No problem! Whenever two Square Hoppers meet in flight, the Right Shoulder Rule applies. And if two Square Hoppers end on the same spot, they take turns bouncing diagonally into that one spot. A new organization (HopperLab) will be formed to define these and many other rules. Square Hopper helps dancers keep in time with the music. The main spring is easily adjustable. Simply ask your caller to announce the music tempo prior to each tip. Square Hopper's main scale is calibrated in Beats (Hops) Per Minute. The secondary scale is an old-fashioned 45 RPM slider, and the third scale is the simplest with just three easy settings: Normal, Too Slow, and Hang On For Dear Life. As a special promotion, if you buy eight Square Hoppers the ninth one is free! And just WHO will use that ninth Square Hopper? The CALLER of course! Some callers are not accustomed to dancers hopping up and down. The caller might become disoriented. But if the caller uses a Square Hopper too, then everyone bounces at the same time so everything appears normal. Callers must be careful to watch only hopping dancers, without looking at the walls, ceiling and floor. The sight of the room bouncing up and down might distract the caller. Please note that many callers are accustomed to seeing a room SPINNING around, especially while imbibing after a dance. But a room HOPPING up and down is a totally new sensation which should be avoided. Don't expect to use your Square Hopper right away! You'll need lessons. For your convenience, lessons start once a year and the class lasts eight months. The first two lessons are free, but if you miss three lessons you're out and you have to start over. After graduation you must hop only in beginner squares for a year until you're finally allowed into good squares. Most people would be turned off by all these restrictions. But you're already a square dancer, so you already know how to survive such an ordeal. With Square Hopper, you'll end up where you need to be, in style and in time with the music. Everyone else will have one. Whether or not you're ready, don't you want to rush to the same level as everyone else? Order your Square Hopper today! Nasser "If you can bounce, you can Square Hop" Shukayr San Benito, Texas From Anniebplus at aol.com Sun Jul 3 18:26:07 2005 From: Anniebplus at aol.com (Anniebplus at aol.com) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:26:07 EDT Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper Message-ID: Cute Nasser! I hope you don't expect these to be used for New Year's Eve. Oh! I forgot. There is an 8 month training period. That means we're short by 2 months. LOL See you then. Anne -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From caller at 3g.quik.com Sun Jul 3 18:39:26 2005 From: caller at 3g.quik.com (JOEY DUHAMEL) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:39:26 -0500 Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper References: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000e01c58020$14606e60$6ecad1d1@computer> I think this has already been invented. It's called TIGGER. JOEY AND BEVERLEY DUHAMEL JUST FRIENDS SQUARE DANCE CLUB, MONROE, LA: http://www.webspawner.com/users/justfriendsdancers/ SOUTHERN SWINGERS SQUARE DANCE CLUB, SHREVEPORT/BOSSIER CITY, LA: http://www.geocities.com/southern_swingers_sdc/ JOEY'S SCHEDULE: http://www.webspawner.com/users/joeysschedule/ JUBILEE IN JEFFERSON, FEBRUARY 17 - 19, 2006, WITH WADE DRIVER, JOEY, OTHERS: http://www.webspawner.com/users/jubileeinjefferson/ CARIBBEAN CRUISE, NOVEMBER 2005, WITH JOEY, OTHERS: http://www.webspawner.com/users/sdcruising/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper > - Square Hopper bounces in time with the music. > - It can jump heights of 6 feet or more. > - Unsightly mechanical parts are covered by a fluffy petticoat. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release Date: 2/14/2005 From jazzgirl7496 at bellsouth.net Sun Jul 3 18:46:01 2005 From: jazzgirl7496 at bellsouth.net (Sandy Caldwell) Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:46:01 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper In-Reply-To: <000e01c58020$14606e60$6ecad1d1@computer> References: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com> <000e01c58020$14606e60$6ecad1d1@computer> Message-ID: <42C86AA9.5070405@bellsouth.net> Joey and Nasser, Although it has been invented and is widely used, it is invisible. We only see the results. When a dancer get from one side of the square to another in only one beat of music, you know they have one of these. JOEY DUHAMEL wrote: >I think this has already been invented. It's called TIGGER. > > > > From giulio at space.net.au Sun Jul 3 19:15:54 2005 From: giulio at space.net.au (Massarotto family) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:15:54 +0800 Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper References: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com> <000e01c58020$14606e60$6ecad1d1@computer> Message-ID: <012d01c58025$2ab9eba0$ca4e5bcb@Administrator> just wondering, can these be adapted to zimmer-frames Giulio ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOEY DUHAMEL" To: Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:39 AM Subject: Re: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper > I think this has already been invented. It's called TIGGER. > > JOEY AND BEVERLEY DUHAMEL > JUST FRIENDS SQUARE DANCE CLUB, MONROE, LA: > http://www.webspawner.com/users/justfriendsdancers/ > SOUTHERN SWINGERS SQUARE DANCE CLUB, SHREVEPORT/BOSSIER CITY, LA: > http://www.geocities.com/southern_swingers_sdc/ > JOEY'S SCHEDULE: > http://www.webspawner.com/users/joeysschedule/ > JUBILEE IN JEFFERSON, FEBRUARY 17 - 19, 2006, WITH WADE DRIVER, JOEY, > OTHERS: > http://www.webspawner.com/users/jubileeinjefferson/ > CARIBBEAN CRUISE, NOVEMBER 2005, WITH JOEY, OTHERS: > http://www.webspawner.com/users/sdcruising/ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 3:28 PM > Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper > > > > - Square Hopper bounces in time with the music. > > - It can jump heights of 6 feet or more. > > - Unsightly mechanical parts are covered by a fluffy petticoat. > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release Date: 2/14/2005 > > > _______________________________________________ > Squaredancing mailing list > Squaredancing at rbnsn.com > http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1325 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! From WA8VEC at ARRL.NET Sun Jul 3 20:05:27 2005 From: WA8VEC at ARRL.NET (Mike Gormley) Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:05:27 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper In-Reply-To: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <42C87D47.5000903@ARRL.NET> nshukayr at aol.com wrote: > Do you ever need to be at a certain place in the square, but a > lost clueless dancer blocks your path? It's a dilemma! You > can't go THROUGH the obstacle. You can't go UNDER. There's > really not much you can do ... until now! Today we proudly > announce the new Square Hopper! > > Square Hopper is essentially a Pogo Stick with several important > enhancements: > > - Square Hopper bounces in time with the music. > - It can jump heights of 6 feet or more. > - Unsightly mechanical parts are covered by a fluffy petticoat. > ...snip... > > Nasser "If you can bounce, you can Square Hop" Shukayr > San Benito, Texas All that "hopping around" should prove popular in the "Land Down Under"! Mike Gormley From ljknews at mac.com Sun Jul 3 22:56:13 2005 From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews) Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:56:13 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Hopper In-Reply-To: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: At 4:28 PM -0400 7/3/05, nshukayr at aol.com wrote: >Do you ever need to be at a certain place in the square, but a >lost clueless dancer blocks your path? It's a dilemma! You >can't go THROUGH the obstacle. You can't go UNDER. There's >really not much you can do ... until now! Today we proudly >announce the new Square Hopper! > >Square Hopper is essentially a Pogo Stick with several important >enhancements: > >- Square Hopper bounces in time with the music. >- It can jump heights of 6 feet or more. >- Unsightly mechanical parts are covered by a fluffy petticoat. As with a lot of advertising I read, this product announcement did not seem to meet my needs. Please repost when you release Square Hopper Executive Edition, which will automatically bounce me to the proper position in the square, without me needing to know what position that is ! -- Larry Kilgallen From jmaczko at san.rr.com Tue Jul 19 08:35:17 2005 From: jmaczko at san.rr.com (Jim Maczko) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 05:35:17 -0700 Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: 54th NSDC on Jay Leno References: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <00c001c58c5e$520aa150$61dd5d46@Jim> This information was received from Lee and Barbi Ashwill, General Chairman of the 54th NSDC in Portland. Jim Maczko - Chairman of the Governing Board ALLIANCE OF ROUND, TRADITIONAL AND SQUARE-DANCE, INC. Post Office Box 712918 San Diego, California 92171-2918 619-295-2635 jmaczko at san.rr.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The piece on the 54th NSDC is supposed to air on the Jay Leno Show on Wednesday, June 20, 2005. Would you please place this information on the website and indicate that the Tonight Show people are 75% sure that the piece will air that night. Also, please include that the contact from the Jay Leno Show, Isaias Centeno, would like feedback (both good and bad) from the dancers who view this show. Please have them E-Mail him at isaias.centeno at nbc.com with a cc to us. Thanks and God Bless. Love, Lee & Barbi _______________________________________________ Squaredancing mailing list Squaredancing at rbnsn.com http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com From kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com Tue Jul 19 08:43:57 2005 From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com (Ken Robinson) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:43:57 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: 54th NSDC on Jay Leno In-Reply-To: <00c001c58c5e$520aa150$61dd5d46@Jim> References: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com> <00c001c58c5e$520aa150$61dd5d46@Jim> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050719084222.025f60f0@mail.rbnsn.com> At 08:35 AM 7/19/2005, Jim Maczko wrote (in part): >This information was received from Lee and Barbi Ashwill, General >Chairman of the 54th NSDC in Portland. [snip] >The piece on the 54th NSDC is supposed to air on the Jay Leno Show >on Wednesday, June 20, 2005. Is this supposed to read "July 20, 2005"? If not, you'll need a time machine to see the program... :-) Ken From ljknews at mac.com Tue Jul 19 08:38:17 2005 From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:38:17 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: 54th NSDC on Jay Leno In-Reply-To: <00c001c58c5e$520aa150$61dd5d46@Jim> References: <8C74E24E096936B-8C4-BB04@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com> <00c001c58c5e$520aa150$61dd5d46@Jim> Message-ID: At 5:35 AM -0700 7/19/05, Jim Maczko quoted: > The piece on the 54th NSDC is supposed to air on the Jay Leno Show > on Wednesday, June 20, 2005. Let me guess -- Ross the Intern ? > >Would you please place this information on the website and indicate that the Tonight Show people are 75% sure that the piece will air that night. > >Also, please include that the contact from the Jay Leno Show, Isaias Centeno, would like feedback (both good and bad) from the dancers who view this show. Please have them E-Mail him at isaias.centeno at nbc.com with a cc to us. -- Larry Kilgallen From darcygm at QNET.COM Thu Jul 21 10:31:43 2005 From: darcygm at QNET.COM (Gary M. Darcy) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:31:43 -0700 Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: 54th NSDC on Jay Leno In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20050719084222.025f60f0@mail.rbnsn.com> References: <00c001c58c5e$520aa150$61dd5d46@Jim> Message-ID: <42DF4F5F.6753.20E1FEC@localhost> I guess there was both positive and negative in the way square dancing was portrayed on the Tonight Show last night. Positive in that, despite the ribbing some of the dancers got, they took it in stride and continued to have fun anyway. Positive too, in that some of our younger dancers made it to camera. The negative, as I saw it, was that the majority of dancers were up there in the years. This, in my mind, made square dancing look like more of a senior's activity, rather than an all-age group activity for families. And as expected, the attire appeared to come under attack. The are just my immediate thoughts on the show. If anyone missed it, I suspect the piece will be available in a few days on the Tonight Show website. I can burn a copy of last night's show onto DVD for those who can't wait. GARY DARCY On 19 Jul 2005 at 8:43, Ken Robinson wrote: > At 08:35 AM 7/19/2005, Jim Maczko wrote (in part): > >This information was received from Lee and Barbi Ashwill, General > >Chairman of the 54th NSDC in Portland. > [snip] > > >The piece on the 54th NSDC is supposed to air on the Jay Leno Show > >on Wednesday, June 20, 2005. > > Is this supposed to read "July 20, 2005"? If not, you'll need a time > machine to see the program... :-) > > Ken From kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com Thu Jul 21 10:45:13 2005 From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com (Ken Robinson) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:45:13 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Went to an interesting Mainstream Dance last night Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050721103459.088ba000@mail.rbnsn.com> Folks, Last night (Wednesday), two mainstream clubs in Northern New Jersey teamed up to put on an interesting dance. Program: Mainstream Caller: Howard Richman Music: Live Band -- The Klezmer Mountain Boys! You read that correctly. This was a Mainstream Dance to Live Music. The attendance was 168 (21 squares) crammed into a hall that usually holds about 12 square comfortably. The digital pictures and some short videos I took can be seen at . BTW, this dance was well attended by dancers who dance at PLUS, Advanced, and Challenge. Ken Robinson From NShukayr at aol.com Thu Jul 21 10:58:22 2005 From: NShukayr at aol.com (NShukayr at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:58:22 EDT Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: Went to an interesting Mainstream Dance last night Message-ID: <143.49618b2e.3011120e@aol.com> > This was a Mainstream Dance to Live Music. > The attendance was 168 (21 squares) crammed into a hall > that usually holds about 12 square comfortably. Much of the appeal of a Live Band dance is that it is a novelty. I'm glad they had 21 squares for their live band dance. If they scheduled a live band dance every week, they probably would not draw that size of a crowd every week. So the key is to keep coming up with ways to make it novel, different, unusual and exciting. A live band is certainly a very effective way of accomplishing that goal. Nasser "variety is the spice of life" Shukayr currently in England -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Remember those are the events that publicize that you _must_ wear funny clothes. -- Larry Kilgallen From lfc32 at earthlink.net Thu Jul 21 12:20:34 2005 From: lfc32 at earthlink.net (Loren Castro) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:20:34 -0700 Subject: [Squaredancing] Went to an interesting Mainstream Dance last night In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20050721103459.088ba000@mail.rbnsn.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20050721103459.088ba000@mail.rbnsn.com> Message-ID: <42DFCB52.9090600@earthlink.net> Good news, Ken. (I hope The Klezmer Mountain Boys aren't so loud as the Ghost Riders.) lfc ----- Ken Robinson wrote: > Folks, > > Last night (Wednesday), two mainstream clubs in Northern New Jersey > teamed up to put on an interesting dance. > > Program: Mainstream > Caller: Howard Richman > Music: Live Band -- The Klezmer Mountain Boys! > > You read that correctly. This was a Mainstream Dance to Live Music. > The attendance was 168 (21 squares) crammed into a hall that usually > holds about 12 square comfortably. > > The digital pictures and some short videos I took can be seen at > . > > > BTW, this dance was well attended by dancers who dance at PLUS, > Advanced, and Challenge. > > Ken Robinson > > > _______________________________________________ > Squaredancing mailing list > Squaredancing at rbnsn.com > http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.2/55 - Release Date: 7/21/2005 From Anniebplus at aol.com Thu Jul 21 12:26:40 2005 From: Anniebplus at aol.com (Anniebplus at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:26:40 EDT Subject: [Squaredancing] Went to an interesting Mainstream Dance last night Message-ID: <1fa.ce82ba6.301126c0@aol.com> I liked the Ghost Riders. I guess it's truly "to each his own." AB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ljknews at mac.com Thu Jul 21 12:37:59 2005 From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:37:59 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Went to an interesting Mainstream Dance last night In-Reply-To: <1fa.ce82ba6.301126c0@aol.com> References: <1fa.ce82ba6.301126c0@aol.com> Message-ID: At 12:26 PM -0400 7/21/05, Anniebplus at aol.com wrote: > I liked the Ghost Riders. I guess it's truly "to each his own." Even with non-live music, I know dancers who choose "closer to the speaker" or "further from the speaker" depending on personal preferences. -- Larry Kilgallen From BOBBSHARP at aol.com Thu Jul 21 13:17:14 2005 From: BOBBSHARP at aol.com (BOBBSHARP at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:17:14 EDT Subject: [Squaredancing] Jay Leno show Message-ID: <1e2.407712b3.3011329a@aol.com> I was (not unexpectedly) disappointed in the coverage of our National Convention. It was simply a sad testimonial of how the general public views our activity. It started with Jay announcing this spoof as being at the National Square Dance 'Competition' and only a brief reference was made to the fact that folks came from all 50 states and numerous foreign countries. Unfortunately, the interviewer felt the only way to make this piece funny was to bring sexiual inuendo into most interviews. The glimpse of a hairy-legged cross-dresser in a square dance skirt certainly didn't help. The only funny comment I heard was from a lady dancer who, when asked what dress size she wore answered, 'Fat'. The interviewer even had to bring in racial overtones while talking to a nice looking black man (unfortunately wearing a T-shirt and a hat) by asking him if he knew he was black and implying that none of these white people would dance with him. The scenes of her struggling through a square dance were a poorly edited depiction of a non-dancer. What a surprise when she exclaims, "I've got it" after finally mastering that difficult call, "Circle Left". The payoff came with the potrayal of her seemingly being bodily thrown to the floor. That was a definate cheap shot. Slap stick comedy came to a new low - please, fade to Jay Leno in Hollywood. All in all, I seriously doubt that Jay's audience will consider this as any more than two minutes of ho-hum Leno. 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Please have them E-mail him at I taped the show last night, but have not watched it yet... Ken From Anniebplus at aol.com Thu Jul 21 13:34:37 2005 From: Anniebplus at aol.com (Anniebplus at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:34:37 EDT Subject: [Squaredancing] Jay Leno show Message-ID: This wasn't meant to be an in-depth piece on square dancing. From the email that we received prior to the show, one should have realized that it was going to be a spoof. I don't think it really matters what the public see as long as they see square dancers...having fun, living longer lives and not necessarily wearing "funny clothes." Anne from Phoenix with less strong roots to MA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From MLMaag at perkinscoie.com Thu Jul 21 13:36:30 2005 From: MLMaag at perkinscoie.com (Maag, Mary Lou) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:36:30 -0700 Subject: [Squaredancing] Jay Leno show Message-ID: <73D41346804B4341A8E259260D5ADC330BBDA8@SEASMAIL03.perkinscoie.root.loc> I realize this was not the point of the reviewer's comment, and I haven't yet seen the bit, but I am seriously curious to know why one reviewer said that it was "unfortunate" that one of the interviewees was wearing a t-shirt and a hat. >From what I've read so far, it seems there was some fun made of "traditional" square dance clothes. None of us can be truly surprised by that. Seems to me showing a person in ordinary street clothes would be a positive thing, so far as clothes go. Again, I realize that was not the point of the reviewer's comment. Mary Lou quote: The interviewer even had to bring in racial overtones while talking to a nice looking black man (unfortunately wearing a T-shirt and a hat) by asking him if he knew he was black and implying that none of these white people would dance with him. NOTICE: This communication may contain privileged or other confidential information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender by reply email and immediately delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LKJ at DJJ.com Thu Jul 21 14:14:58 2005 From: LKJ at DJJ.com (Linda Jones - LKJ) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:14:58 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] funny clothes Message-ID: I took up dancing 25 years ago and one of the things I loved were the pretty outfits. Now it been reduced "funny clothes". -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ljknews at mac.com Thu Jul 21 14:18:35 2005 From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:18:35 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] funny clothes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 2:14 PM -0400 7/21/05, Linda Jones - LKJ wrote: > I took up dancing 25 years ago and one of the things I loved > were the pretty outfits. Now it been reduced "funny clothes". Particularly by those (including my wife) who dislike the concept. But we have only been square dancing 4 years, so in some areas the times have changed. Asking people to shell out money for a special wardrobe and also for more than 20 weeks of lessons is double trouble. I prefer to be with people who can dance rather than wear fancy costumes, but I have met many of the opposite capability. -- Larry Kilgallen From Anniebplus at aol.com Thu Jul 21 16:46:12 2005 From: Anniebplus at aol.com (Anniebplus at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:46:12 EDT Subject: [Squaredancing] funny clothes Message-ID: <1b8.17968907.30116394@aol.com> I really prefer dancing in "costume." It's so much prettier when your twirled or spinned and the "skirt work" is there. But, living in AZ, with days in the 115 degrees, dancing without petticoat and pettipants is definitely a plus. I think people should be allowed to wear what they'd like...within reason. It's still a dance and should be appropriately dressed. Besides that, it's the fun that matters and that will keep people dancing and attract new dancers. Anne -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ljknews at mac.com Thu Jul 21 16:53:13 2005 From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:53:13 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] funny clothes In-Reply-To: <1b8.17968907.30116394@aol.com> References: <1b8.17968907.30116394@aol.com> Message-ID: At 4:46 PM -0400 7/21/05, Anniebplus at aol.com wrote: > I think people should be allowed to wear what they'd like... Exactly. What I object to is social pressures to conform to a particular dress code. > within reason. It's still a dance and should be appropriately dressed. The place where I get the best dancing has most people wearing T shirts. > Besides that, it's the fun that matters and that will keep people > dancing and attract new dancers. Not if the dress code (real or apparent) scares them away first. -- Larry Kilgallen From squarekopp at gmx.de Thu Jul 21 17:24:18 2005 From: squarekopp at gmx.de (squarekopp at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 23:24:18 +0200 (MEST) Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: funny clothes Message-ID: <31640.1121981058@www49.gmx.net> > a nice looking black man (unfortunately wearing a T-shirt and a hat) When Mr. Carter was President, he had a square dance party at the White House. I remember some very dis- (-gusted? -apointed? at least dis-senting) letters to American Square Dance Magazine how Mr. President dared to dance in a short-sleeved shirt. Sorry for my terrible memory Heiner Fischle Hannover, Germany From dave at daveswebplace.net Thu Jul 21 19:43:18 2005 From: dave at daveswebplace.net (Dave) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:43:18 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: funny clothes In-Reply-To: <31640.1121981058@www49.gmx.net> Message-ID: For those that don't remember, Jimmy Carter was a square dancer prior to running for Governor, and then President. I had the good fortune to dance in a square with him at the 1st Georgia State Square Dance Convention. He had taken time out from campaigning for Governor to stop and dance a couple tips. I can't remember if he was wearing a long or short sleeve shirt at the time:-) Dave Hinde > -----Original Message----- > From: Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com > [mailto:Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf Of > squarekopp at gmx.de > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 5:24 PM > To: Squaredancing at rbnsn.com > Cc: sd-callers at all8.com > Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: funny clothes > > > a nice looking black man (unfortunately wearing a T-shirt and a hat) > > When Mr. Carter was President, he had a square dance party at > the White House. I remember some very dis- (-gusted? > -apointed? at least dis-senting) letters to American Square > Dance Magazine how Mr. President dared to dance in a > short-sleeved shirt. > > Sorry for my terrible memory > Heiner Fischle > Hannover, Germany > > _______________________________________________ > Squaredancing mailing list > Squaredancing at rbnsn.com > http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com > From James.W.Spinks.1 at arczip.com Fri Jul 22 05:42:27 2005 From: James.W.Spinks.1 at arczip.com (James W. Spinks) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 05:42:27 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] RE: [Square-dancing] Re: funny clothes In-Reply-To: <200507212344.j6LNiJJi014628@myrmidon.mailrover.net> Message-ID: Group, I have been a SD'r (Square Dancer) since Sept. 1966 when I was a Junior in HS. Below describes how I became a square dancer. A classmate introduced me and several other classmates to it via a first nighter. She (the classmate) asked me a several others to party on a Friday night a couple of weeks down the road, that she was going to attend. I asked her how'd I get to it as I didn't drive yet (at a rec. center in Wheaton Md) 9 or 10 miles from the HS we attended. She said she and her older brother who drove, would pick us up and take us to it. My classmate and her brother showed up in his 1962 Ford Falcon in "Funny Clothes/Outfits" (Square Dance attire...didn't know it was a square dance first nighter) I was shocked, ask her if it was a costume party and had she forgotten to tell me. She said "No", I would see what was going on when I got to the rec center. It was a first nighter for the "Teen" square dance club she and her brother belonged to. Also her brother was one of the club's 3 teen callers. The Square Dance attire adds to the fun of square dancing. The thing I most HATE is people who show up in BLUE JEANS and Blue Jean Shirts. I have seen BOTH Men and Women at dances in BLUE JEANS. A matter of fact there are TWO couples in one of my clubs that have several MATCHING Blue JEAN outfits with "TIE-DYE" patches on the knees and elbows and pockets of the jeans and shirts. The WHOLE purpose of Square Dancing attire is to eliminate the FALSE impression that MOST Americans have that Square Dance is a Back Road Rural "HICK" activity. To Relate other story tied to the "HICK" mentally associated with Square Dancing. The various teen clubs in Metro Washington DC area at that time (mid to late 1960's) would sponsor Spring and Fall Teen Festivals, usually the Spring one would be held in the Maryland suburbs and the Fall one in the Northern Virginia suburbs at a local junior high or high school gym. One occasion the school custodian staff had covered the gym floor with hay and instead of pulling out the bleacher stand/seats had place piles of hay bales. When the custodian was asked what was going on, he said he was helping us "decorate the place" because "Square Dancing is done in a Farmer's barn" The other thing I hate is when TV stations deride Square Dancing as "HICK". To get more people into Modern Western SD we need to educate the Media and the Public that Square Dancing is NOT repeat NOT a HICK activity. Also the public schools systems in this country usually use "Classic" (Virginia Reel, Turkey in the Straw, etc) music when and if they have square dancing as part of the PE class requirement for dancing. Paul Hartman, a well know local square dance caller in the Wash. DC. and Suburban Md. area worked as Volunteer, with the Montgomery County Rec. Department and the County's schools to attempt to use Mod. West. Square Dancing in the Junior and Senior High Schools PE program. Happy Square Dancing, Jim Spinks -----Original Message----- From: Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com [mailto:Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com]On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 7:43 PM To: 'This list for discussing all aspect of MWSD' Subject: RE: [Squaredancing] Re: funny clothes For those that don't remember, Jimmy Carter was a square dancer prior to running for Governor, and then President. I had the good fortune to dance in a square with him at the 1st Georgia State Square Dance Convention. He had taken time out from campaigning for Governor to stop and dance a couple tips. I can't remember if he was wearing a long or short sleeve shirt at the time:-) Dave Hinde > -----Original Message----- > From: Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com > [mailto:Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf Of > squarekopp at gmx.de > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 5:24 PM > To: Squaredancing at rbnsn.com > Cc: sd-callers at all8.com > Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: funny clothes > > > a nice looking black man (unfortunately wearing a T-shirt and a hat) > > When Mr. Carter was President, he had a square dance party at > the White House. I remember some very dis- (-gusted? > -apointed? at least dis-senting) letters to American Square > Dance Magazine how Mr. President dared to dance in a > short-sleeved shirt. > > Sorry for my terrible memory > Heiner Fischle > Hannover, Germany > > _______________________________________________ > Squaredancing mailing list > Squaredancing at rbnsn.com > http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com > _______________________________________________ Squaredancing mailing list Squaredancing at rbnsn.com http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com From James.W.Spinks.1 at arczip.com Fri Jul 22 05:49:33 2005 From: James.W.Spinks.1 at arczip.com (James W. Spinks) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 05:49:33 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: 54th NSDC on Jay Leno In-Reply-To: <42DF4F5F.6753.20E1FEC@localhost> Message-ID: Gary, Yes burn it on a DVD. I missed it last night. When I contacted my local NBC station they said they didn't expect it would be repeated any time soon. Let me know when you have burned a copy on a DVD. Square Dancingly Yours, Jim Spinks Jim.W.Spinks.1 at arczip.com -----Original Message----- From: Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com [mailto:Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com]On Behalf Of Gary M. Darcy Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:32 AM To: This list for discussing all aspect of MWSD Subject: Re: [Squaredancing] Re: 54th NSDC on Jay Leno I guess there was both positive and negative in the way square dancing was portrayed on the Tonight Show last night. Positive in that, despite the ribbing some of the dancers got, they took it in stride and continued to have fun anyway. Positive too, in that some of our younger dancers made it to camera. The negative, as I saw it, was that the majority of dancers were up there in the years. This, in my mind, made square dancing look like more of a senior's activity, rather than an all-age group activity for families. And as expected, the attire appeared to come under attack. The are just my immediate thoughts on the show. If anyone missed it, I suspect the piece will be available in a few days on the Tonight Show website. I can burn a copy of last night's show onto DVD for those who can't wait. GARY DARCY On 19 Jul 2005 at 8:43, Ken Robinson wrote: > At 08:35 AM 7/19/2005, Jim Maczko wrote (in part): > >This information was received from Lee and Barbi Ashwill, General > >Chairman of the 54th NSDC in Portland. > [snip] > > >The piece on the 54th NSDC is supposed to air on the Jay Leno Show > >on Wednesday, June 20, 2005. > > Is this supposed to read "July 20, 2005"? If not, you'll need a time > machine to see the program... :-) > > Ken _______________________________________________ Squaredancing mailing list Squaredancing at rbnsn.com http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com From ljknews at mac.com Fri Jul 22 08:56:35 2005 From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:56:35 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] RE: [Square-dancing] Re: funny clothes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 5:42 AM -0400 7/22/05, James W. Spinks wrote: >Group, > >I have been a SD'r (Square Dancer) since Sept. 1966 when I >was a Junior in HS. Below describes how I became a square >dancer. >The Square Dance attire adds to the fun of square dancing. The thing >I most HATE is people who show up in BLUE JEANS and Blue Jean Shirts. >I have seen BOTH Men and Women at dances in BLUE JEANS. A matter of >fact there are TWO couples in one of my clubs that have several MATCHING >Blue JEAN outfits with "TIE-DYE" patches on the knees and elbows and >pockets of the jeans and shirts. > >The WHOLE purpose of Square Dancing attire is to eliminate the FALSE >impression that MOST Americans have that Square Dance is a Back Road >Rural "HICK" activity. That is an interesting historical look at the origin of the funny clothes. In the Boston area many people have never even seen a farm up close. Overcoming the idea that it is a lot of work to go to a square dance (as distinguished from a lot of work to square dance) has become a more important need. Remember, we are competing with activities where people do not even have to leave their home. -- Larry Kilgallen From ljknews at mac.com Fri Jul 22 09:21:16 2005 From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:21:16 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] RE: [Square-dancing] Re: funny clothes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 8:56 AM -0400 7/22/05, ljknews wrote: >At 5:42 AM -0400 7/22/05, James W. Spinks wrote: >>Group, >> >>I have been a SD'r (Square Dancer) since Sept. 1966 when I >>was a Junior in HS. Below describes how I became a square >>dancer. > > >>The Square Dance attire adds to the fun of square dancing. The thing >>I most HATE is people who show up in BLUE JEANS and Blue Jean Shirts. >>I have seen BOTH Men and Women at dances in BLUE JEANS. A matter of >>fact there are TWO couples in one of my clubs that have several MATCHING >>Blue JEAN outfits with "TIE-DYE" patches on the knees and elbows and >>pockets of the jeans and shirts. >> >>The WHOLE purpose of Square Dancing attire is to eliminate the FALSE >>impression that MOST Americans have that Square Dance is a Back Road >>Rural "HICK" activity. > >That is an interesting historical look at the origin of the funny clothes. > >In the Boston area many people have never even seen a farm up close. >Overcoming the idea that it is a lot of work to go to a square dance >(as distinguished from a lot of work to square dance) has become a >more important need. Remember, we are competing with activities where >people do not even have to leave their home. I apologize for not getting this into my earlier post, but to urban folks today, the "funny clothes" coupled with the "hick" reputation of square dancing make people think those clothes are farmer style clothing. -- Larry Kilgallen From brucemorgan at earthlink.net Fri Jul 22 16:06:43 2005 From: brucemorgan at earthlink.net (Bruce) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:06:43 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Jay Leno Message-ID: <002f01c58ef8$e1910b60$6c01a8c0@Bruce> If you would like to see the video of the Square Dance Convention on the Jay Leno Show please go to this web site and click on the Featured Video. It will take you the current video if it is past the time frame for the square dance video it will still be listed as one of the recent past events. It takes a long time to load, especially if you have dial-up. http://www.nbc.com/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno/index.shtml Click on the square dance picture and it will bring up the video. 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It will take you the current video if it is past the time frame for the square dance video it will still be listed as one of the recent past events. It takes a long time to load, especially if you have dial-up. http://www.nbc.com/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno/index.shtml Click on the square dance picture and it will bring up the video. You have to have Windows Media Player installed on your machine. Bruce -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From James.W.Spinks.1 at arczip.com Sat Jul 23 09:20:21 2005 From: James.W.Spinks.1 at arczip.com (James W. Spinks) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 09:20:21 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Jay Leno In-Reply-To: <002f01c58ef8$e1910b60$6c01a8c0@Bruce> Message-ID: Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com [mailto:Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:07 PM To: Square Dance Group; Square Dance Caller Group Subject: [Squaredancing] Jay Leno If you would like to see the video of the Square Dance Convention on the Jay Leno Show please go to this web site and click on the Featured Video. It will take you the current video if it is past the time frame for the square dance video it will still be listed as one of the recent past events. It takes a long time to load, especially if you have dial-up. http://www.nbc.com/The_Tonight_Show_with_Jay_Leno/index.shtml Click on the square dance picture and it will bring up the video. You have to have Windows Media Player installed on your machine. Bruce -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lfc32 at earthlink.net Sun Jul 24 13:08:16 2005 From: lfc32 at earthlink.net (Loren Castro) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:08:16 -0700 Subject: [Squaredancing] RE: [Square-dancing] Re: funny clothes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42E3CB00.8060803@earthlink.net> I wrote the next two paragraphs a few years ago after another purist sounded off about proper square dance attire. They are the last two paragraphs of my little tirade. ==================== Third, I wear jeans to all dances. Sometimes they are brown, sometimes they are black, and sometimes they are white. Sometimes they are dark blue, and sometimes they are light blue. I have worn jeans to many previous Golden State Roundups, to Silver State, to USA West, to Las Vegas, to Bakersfield, to Tulare, to Turlock, and to other smaller festivals. I wore jeans the last time the National Convention was in Anaheim, and I WILL wear jeans to Anaheim in 2001. Nobody has ever suggested that I was not "properly attired" or tried to remove me. Lighten up about "proper attire" or suffer a further decline in the number of dancers. ==================== A local caller (Hi, Eric) teases me about this occasionally. I thought I remembered that Nasser Shukayr had written one of his wicked little satires about this subject. I save everything he posts here, but either my memory fails me (again) or I just didn't save this one. Maybe he'll come up with something. lfc ----- James W. Spinks wrote: >Group, > >I have been a SD'r (Square Dancer) since Sept. 1966 when I >was a Junior in HS. Below describes how I became a square >dancer. > >A classmate introduced me and several other classmates to it >via a first nighter. She (the classmate) asked me a several others to >party on a Friday night a couple of weeks down the road, that she >was going to attend. > >I asked her how'd I get to it as I didn't drive yet (at a rec. center >in Wheaton Md) 9 or 10 miles from the HS we attended. She said she >and her older brother who drove, would pick us up and take us to it. >My classmate and her brother showed up in his 1962 Ford Falcon >in "Funny Clothes/Outfits" (Square Dance attire...didn't know it was >a square dance first nighter) I was shocked, ask her if it was a >costume party and had she forgotten to tell me. She said "No", I >would see what was going on when I got to the rec center. It was >a first nighter for the "Teen" square dance club she and her brother >belonged to. Also her brother was one of the club's 3 teen callers. > >The Square Dance attire adds to the fun of square dancing. The thing >I most HATE is people who show up in BLUE JEANS and Blue Jean Shirts. >I have seen BOTH Men and Women at dances in BLUE JEANS. A matter of >fact there are TWO couples in one of my clubs that have several MATCHING >Blue JEAN outfits with "TIE-DYE" patches on the knees and elbows and >pockets of the jeans and shirts. > >The WHOLE purpose of Square Dancing attire is to eliminate the FALSE >impression that MOST Americans have that Square Dance is a Back Road >Rural "HICK" activity. > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: 7/22/2005 From kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com Sun Jul 24 13:24:02 2005 From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com (Ken Robinson) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:24:02 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Helena Robinson's Health Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050724132126.02ff17b8@mail.rbnsn.com> All, I don't know how many of you are subscribed to our email list for Helena's health. Many of you know us and know that my wife, Helena, has been battling cancer since 1981. Her condition took a turn for the worse this summer and she is now very sick. To read more, please go to . You can also sign up for the mailing list there. Ken Robnson From caller at 3g.quik.com Sun Jul 24 13:50:52 2005 From: caller at 3g.quik.com (JOEY DUHAMEL) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:50:52 -0500 Subject: [Squaredancing] RE: [Square-dancing] Re: funny clothes References: <42E3CB00.8060803@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001101c59078$3f020760$5ecad1d1@computer> I have about 8 pairs of knit western pants. I can only wear 2 pairs now (somehow most of them shrunk). I wear jeans to most of my dances, whether I'm calling or dancing. I at least try and choose the ones that look nice. I only wear a tie (bolo) about 1/4 of the time, and almost never wear a jacket (although I have 7). JOEY AND BEVERLEY DUHAMEL JUST FRIENDS SQUARE DANCE CLUB, MONROE, LA: http://www.webspawner.com/users/justfriendsdancers/ SOUTHERN SWINGERS SQUARE DANCE CLUB, SHREVEPORT/BOSSIER CITY, LA: http://www.geocities.com/southern_swingers_sdc/ JOEY'S SCHEDULE: http://www.webspawner.com/users/joeysschedule/ JUBILEE IN JEFFERSON, FEBRUARY 17 - 19, 2006, WITH WADE DRIVER, JOEY, OTHERS: http://www.webspawner.com/users/jubileeinjefferson/ CARIBBEAN CRUISE, NOVEMBER 2005, WITH JOEY, OTHERS: http://www.webspawner.com/users/sdcruising/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loren Castro" To: "This list for discussing all aspect of MWSD" Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Squaredancing] RE: [Square-dancing] Re: funny clothes > I wrote the next two paragraphs a few years ago after another purist > sounded off about proper square dance attire. They are the last two > paragraphs of my little tirade. > ==================== > Third, I wear jeans to all dances. Sometimes they are brown, sometimes > they are black, and sometimes they are white. Sometimes they are dark > blue, and sometimes they are light blue. I have worn jeans to many > previous Golden State Roundups, to Silver State, to USA West, to Las > Vegas, to Bakersfield, to Tulare, to Turlock, and to other smaller > festivals. I wore jeans the last time the National Convention was in > Anaheim, and I WILL wear jeans to Anaheim in 2001. Nobody has ever > suggested that I was not "properly attired" or tried to remove me. > > Lighten up about "proper attire" or suffer a further decline in the > number of dancers. > ==================== > A local caller (Hi, Eric) teases me about this occasionally. > > I thought I remembered that Nasser Shukayr had written one of his wicked > little satires about this subject. I save everything he posts here, but > either my memory fails me (again) or I just didn't save this one. Maybe > he'll come up with something. > > lfc > ----- > James W. Spinks wrote: > > >Group, > > > >I have been a SD'r (Square Dancer) since Sept. 1966 when I > >was a Junior in HS. Below describes how I became a square > >dancer. > > > >A classmate introduced me and several other classmates to it > >via a first nighter. She (the classmate) asked me a several others to > >party on a Friday night a couple of weeks down the road, that she > >was going to attend. > > > >I asked her how'd I get to it as I didn't drive yet (at a rec. center > >in Wheaton Md) 9 or 10 miles from the HS we attended. She said she > >and her older brother who drove, would pick us up and take us to it. > >My classmate and her brother showed up in his 1962 Ford Falcon > >in "Funny Clothes/Outfits" (Square Dance attire...didn't know it was > >a square dance first nighter) I was shocked, ask her if it was a > >costume party and had she forgotten to tell me. She said "No", I > >would see what was going on when I got to the rec center. It was > >a first nighter for the "Teen" square dance club she and her brother > >belonged to. Also her brother was one of the club's 3 teen callers. > > > >The Square Dance attire adds to the fun of square dancing. The thing > >I most HATE is people who show up in BLUE JEANS and Blue Jean Shirts. > >I have seen BOTH Men and Women at dances in BLUE JEANS. A matter of > >fact there are TWO couples in one of my clubs that have several MATCHING > >Blue JEAN outfits with "TIE-DYE" patches on the knees and elbows and > >pockets of the jeans and shirts. > > > >The WHOLE purpose of Square Dancing attire is to eliminate the FALSE > >impression that MOST Americans have that Square Dance is a Back Road > >Rural "HICK" activity. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: 7/22/2005 > > > _______________________________________________ > Squaredancing mailing list > Squaredancing at rbnsn.com > http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release Date: 2/14/2005 From squarekopp at gmx.de Mon Jul 25 16:53:29 2005 From: squarekopp at gmx.de (squarekopp at gmx.de) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:53:29 +0200 (MEST) Subject: [Squaredancing] Paul Hartman (was funny clothes) Message-ID: <25398.1122324809@www49.gmx.net> James W. Spinks (James.W.Spinks.1 at arczip.com) mentioned >>> Paul Hartman, a well know local square dance caller in the Wash. DC. and Suburban Md. area worked as Volunteer, with the Montgomery County Rec. Department and the County's schools to attempt to use Mod. West. Square Dancing in the Junior and Senior High Schools PE program. <<< And he also brought Square Dancing to Germany. Yours squarely Heiner Fischle Hannover, Germany From kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com Mon Jul 25 23:47:32 2005 From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com (Ken Robinson) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:47:32 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Helena Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050725234618.02f9cc68@mail.rbnsn.com> Hi, I don't know if you recieved the word, but Helena passed away at 10:40 am this morning. The funeral is Tuesday, July 26, 2005 at 3:00 PM at Temple Beth Shalom, 1315 Whitty Road, Toms River, NJ 08753. After the funeral, food will provided at the my parents' home at 1450 Old Freehold Road, Toms River, NJ 08753. Shiva will be at Helena's sister's, Judy Newland, home at 1958 Silverton Road, Toms River, NJ 08753. For directions to the funeral, you can use your favorite mapping program or to use Google Maps. According to Jewish Tradition, please do not send flowers. If you wish to contribute something in her name, please send your contributions to: Adenoid Cystic Carcinoma Organization International P.O. Box 15482 San Diego, CA 92175-5482 You can also contribute on line at . Ken From caller at 3g.quik.com Tue Jul 26 00:15:49 2005 From: caller at 3g.quik.com (JOEY DUHAMEL) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:15:49 -0500 Subject: [Squaredancing] Helena References: <6.2.3.4.2.20050725234618.02f9cc68@mail.rbnsn.com> Message-ID: <001001c59198$b6798180$61cad1d1@computer> Ken, I don't recall if I've ever met you or Helena, but my, and Beverley's, heart goes out to you. You are in our prayers and thoughts. It's been a long battle for you, we know. God bless you. JOEY AND BEVERLEY DUHAMEL JUST FRIENDS SQUARE DANCE CLUB, MONROE, LA: http://www.webspawner.com/users/justfriendsdancers/ SOUTHERN SWINGERS SQUARE DANCE CLUB, SHREVEPORT/BOSSIER CITY, LA: http://www.geocities.com/southern_swingers_sdc/ JOEY'S SCHEDULE: http://www.webspawner.com/users/joeysschedule/ JUBILEE IN JEFFERSON, FEBRUARY 17 - 19, 2006, WITH WADE DRIVER, JOEY, OTHERS: http://www.webspawner.com/users/jubileeinjefferson/ CARIBBEAN CRUISE, NOVEMBER 2005, WITH JOEY, OTHERS: http://www.webspawner.com/users/sdcruising/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Robinson" To: Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:47 PM Subject: [Squaredancing] Helena > Hi, > > I don't know if you recieved the word, but Helena passed away at > 10:40 am this morning. The funeral is Tuesday, July 26, 2005 at 3:00 > PM at Temple Beth Shalom, 1315 Whitty Road, Toms River, NJ 08753. > After the funeral, food will provided at the my parents' home at 1450 > Old Freehold Road, Toms River, NJ 08753. Shiva will be at Helena's > sister's, Judy Newland, home at 1958 Silverton Road, Toms River, NJ 08753. > > For directions to the funeral, you can use your favorite mapping > program or > > to use Google Maps. > > According to Jewish Tradition, please do not send flowers. If you > wish to contribute something in her name, please send your contributions to: > > Adenoid Cystic Carcinoma Organization International > P.O. Box 15482 > San Diego, CA 92175-5482 > > You can also contribute on line at > . > > Ken > > > _______________________________________________ > Squaredancing mailing list > Squaredancing at rbnsn.com > http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release Date: 2/14/2005 From wclaytor at hotmail.com Tue Jul 26 07:43:40 2005 From: wclaytor at hotmail.com (W Claytor) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:43:40 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Helena In-Reply-To: <001001c59198$b6798180$61cad1d1@computer> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ljknews at mac.com Wed Jul 27 13:03:57 2005 From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:03:57 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: [sd-callers] Re: funny clothes In-Reply-To: <02f001c592c8$949e8b60$6401a8c0@LAPTOP> References: <31640.1121981058@www49.gmx.net> <02f001c592c8$949e8b60$6401a8c0@LAPTOP> Message-ID: At 12:30 PM -0400 7/27/05, Carol Tapp wrote: > I was turned off at the beginning when Jay said it was a square dance > competition. Often when we tell people that we've been to a square dance, > they ask if we won. We tell them it isn't a competition. Maybe we should > make it into a competitive "sport." More people might be interested and > work harder at being good dancers if it were! On the contrary, I believe the notion that it is a competition give one a great opportunity to launch into a full description of square dancing. Except for teen clubs in the Pacific Northwest, where it _is_ a competition. -- Larry Kilgallen From cmbaker at tiac.net Wed Jul 27 20:35:36 2005 From: cmbaker at tiac.net (Clark Baker) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:35:36 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: 54th NSDC on Jay Leno In-Reply-To: References: <00c001c58c5e$520aa150$61dd5d46@Jim> <42DF4F5F.6753.20E1FEC@localhost> Message-ID: <8c091fc3f95a65f7f62880993098aad9@tiac.net> On Jul 21, 2005, at 11:15 AM, ljknews wrote: > Of course it was naturally the subset of square dancers who can afford > to (and choose to) travel to Oregon. For me the piece solidified my > (negative) reaction to US national square dancing conventions. I don't believe it is fair to judge how well you would be entertained at a National Convention by the Jay Leno coverage, especially since their goal is to poke fun at the event. I have attended 4 recent Nationals and expect to attend at least the next 3. Each is different, and at each I find ways to be entertained. Sometimes it is watching the exhibition dancers, sometimes it is attending the seminars. Other times it is dancing in the contra or Advanced or Challenge halls. Often it is dancing with younger dancers who "get" it. Finally, closing out each evening with 2 hours of Plus hexagons is fun. If you can't have fun at a National, it is hard to see where you can have fun. > Remember those are the events that publicize that you _must_ wear > funny clothes. I haven't been excluded from a National wearing what I wear to most contra dances. I usually try to wear a western shirt each evening. Of course, if the travel and staying expense is too much, you should choose your dance events. Certainly the dance fee for Nationals is reasonable. -- Clark Baker, Belmont, MA cmbaker at tiac.net From cmbaker at tiac.net Wed Jul 27 23:15:16 2005 From: cmbaker at tiac.net (Clark Baker) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:15:16 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Re: Went to an interesting Mainstream Dance last night In-Reply-To: <143.49618b2e.3011120e@aol.com> References: <143.49618b2e.3011120e@aol.com> Message-ID: <2e7b8a14a9da04f98f98d06d42c910fd@tiac.net> My daughter and I just returned from the Rocky Mountain Magic Plus Weekend (http://www.squaredancing.com/bearmiller/plusweekend/) in Denver. In addition to a staff of 4 callers they had 2 additional caller. The special part was that both evening dances had music provided by The Ghost Riders. I had danced to tis band at various National Conventions. In that venue I find the overall experience a little loud, a little crowded, and mostly everyone does singing calls (ok, but I want something different after a while). At RMM the callers did both patter and singing calls with the band. I found the overall experience enjoyable and high energy, and the over 40 squares in attendance must have agreed. I understand that they will do it again next year. -- Clark Baker, Belmont, MA cmbaker at tiac.net