From crewcut at adelphia.net Mon May 2 09:21:54 2005 From: crewcut at adelphia.net (Carl S. Bittner, Jr.) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:21:54 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Border problems References: <1114909754_32482@rcmdxmail01> Message-ID: <005301c54f19$e88eb350$e20da245@yourfsyly0jtwn> In regard to last weekend's debacle with Tim Crawford, Tom Miller was scheduled to call for us at Mt. Nittany Squares on Sunday. I got a call from him Saturday late afternoon asking to be relieved of that obligation if he could get a substitute caller for us. Whaddaya gonna say when some club is in dire straits with 400 reservations for an anniversary dance and the caller is held up at the border? Tom was able to get a caller for us, Jeff Bobst, and our dance proceeded as scheduled. Needless to say, a lot of our folk were disapointed to miss Tom, but we had a great time with Jeff. This is about the third or fourth time in the last year Tom has cancelled out on us, leading to much scrambling on our part. Jeff Bobst has filled in many times for him and deserves much praise for his willingness to adjust his schedule. Our club schedules Jeff about once a month throughout the year for Adv and C1 calling; we find his personality great and his calling outstanding. Tom is also scheduled in about once a month; we've known him since he was a beginning caller 20+ years ago and it's been a pleasure watching him develop his calling skills. I don't know the outcome of Tim's troubles, not having heard any news about the situation. I hope it was successfully resolved as he comes across the border frequently according to the flyers I see at dances. He's been in our area of central PA for many special dances. ----- Original Message ----- From: dave.hinde To: squaredancing at rbnsn.com Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:09 PM Subject: [Squaredancing] Border problems Has anyone heard anything about the issues Tim Crawford had crossing the border last week. Apparently he was stopped entering the US and his car and calling equipment were confiscated. I heard the issue was lack of a work permit. I don't have any more details on the problems. He was scheduled to call in Rochester, NY, and someone else had to step into his place at the last minute. I was hoping someone on this list could shed some more light on the issue. Dave Hinde -------------------------------------------------------------------- __/, at __ dave at daveswebplace.net /O____O_| http://www.daveswebplace.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Squaredancing mailing list Squaredancing at rbnsn.com http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lfc32 at earthlink.net Mon May 2 11:52:12 2005 From: lfc32 at earthlink.net (Loren Castro) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 08:52:12 -0700 Subject: [Squaredancing] Border problems In-Reply-To: <005301c54f19$e88eb350$e20da245@yourfsyly0jtwn> References: <1114909754_32482@rcmdxmail01> <005301c54f19$e88eb350$e20da245@yourfsyly0jtwn> Message-ID: <42764CAC.4080603@earthlink.net> This has been a fascinating--and confusing--story. Please excuse this ignorant Californian and answer a couple of questions: Who was held up at the border? Tim Crawford Tom Miller What border was he held up at? Canada Mexico New Jersey Thank you, lfc ----- Carl S. Bittner, Jr. wrote: > In regard to last weekend's debacle with Tim Crawford, Tom > Miller was scheduled to call for us at Mt. Nittany Squares on > Sunday. I got a call from him Saturday late afternoon asking to be > relieved of that obligation if he could get a substitute caller for > us. Whaddaya gonna say when some club is in dire straits with 400 > reservations for an anniversary dance and the caller is held up at the > border? Tom was able to get a caller for us, Jeff Bobst, and our dance > proceeded as scheduled. Needless to say, a lot of our folk were > disapointed to miss Tom, but we had a great time with Jeff. This is > about the third or fourth time in the last year Tom has cancelled out > on us, leading to much scrambling on our part. Jeff Bobst has filled > in many times for him and deserves much praise for his willingness to > adjust his schedule. Our club schedules Jeff about once a month > throughout the year for Adv and C1 calling; we find his personality > great and his calling outstanding. Tom is also scheduled in about once > a month; we've known him since he was a beginning caller 20+ years ago > and it's been a pleasure watching him develop his calling skills. I > don't know the outcome of Tim's troubles, not having heard any news > about the situation. I hope it was successfully resolved as he comes > across the border frequently according to the flyers I see at dances. > He's been in our area of central PA for many special dances. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dave.hinde > To: squaredancing at rbnsn.com > Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:09 PM > Subject: [Squaredancing] Border problems > > Has anyone heard anything about the issues Tim Crawford had > crossing the border last week. Apparently he was stopped entering > the US and his car and calling equipment were confiscated. I > heard the issue was lack of a work permit. > > I don't have any more details on the problems. He was scheduled > to call in Rochester, NY, and someone else had to step into his > place at the last minute. I was hoping someone on this list could > shed some more light on the issue. > > Dave Hinde > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > __/, at __ dave at daveswebplace.net > /O____O_| http://www.daveswebplace.net > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Squaredancing mailing list > Squaredancing at rbnsn.com > http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Squaredancing mailing list >Squaredancing at rbnsn.com >http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 From CALLERTIM at aol.com Mon May 2 11:38:58 2005 From: CALLERTIM at aol.com (CALLERTIM at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:38:58 EDT Subject: [Squaredancing] Border problems Message-ID: <12a.5c80087e.2fa7a392@aol.com> In a message dated 01/05/2005 3:18:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dave at daveswebplace.net writes: I don't have any more details on the problems. He was scheduled to call in Rochester, NY, and someone else had to step into his place at the last minute. I was hoping someone on this list could shed some more light on the issue. Hello Dave...thanks for the note...below is a brief explanation of about a week ago...as of today, I am seeking a Visa, and working on a petition for a judge. I have all my "stuff" back (that part was a bit of a misinterpretation) and I have a lawyer working on my behalf. Thanks for the interest....wish me luck!! ____________________________________________ I AM SORRY FOR THE SHORT NOTICE, but I regret that the US immigration service has denied me entry to the United States for the purpose of calling for a period not less than my appeal and petition period. On Saturday, I was to be calling in Rochester NY, then PA. While trying to cross the border, and on a routine security check, the guard determined that I was going to call a dance (which I was honest about) and then determined that it is a "job" and so I was denied entry, my possessions impounded and returned to Canada. I missed both Dances. Further they have denied my entry until a satisfactory position can be determined within the government to determine if the "cultural exchange" rules that we have enjoyed between our 2 counties should be empowered here or not. In the meantime, they have restricted my access rights entirely. I have spent 3 days with Lawyers and judges, petitioning them to grant me either a B1V visa, or an E visa, and as of today, they have made no determination. Currently I am in limbo, but I do know that crossing the border to call a dance would have me arrested. Today, I was granted the right to enter only for recreational purposes, and they cautioned me that my calling cannot be considered that until after the petition period. I have applied for a US Visa at the cost of $1000us application fee plus legal costs. I am advised the process can be as short as 3 weeks, and as long as 3 years, and finally there is no guarantee. I am so sorry to drop this on you, and I will call you all in the next few days. US security has dramatically affected cross border commerce, and it would seem that there is no interpretation other than the letter of the law! I SINCERELY wish there was more I could do! My deepest apologies. Tim Crawford 2229 Sunnyside Dr. Burlington, ON, L7M 4K8 905 332 7597 _WWW.CALLERTIM.COM_ (http://www.CALLERTIM.COM) _________________________________________________________________ Tim Crawford 2229 Sunnyside Dr. Burlington, ON, L7M 4K8 905 332 7597 _WWW.CALLERTIM.COM_ (http://www.callertim.com/) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lfc32 at earthlink.net Mon May 2 12:24:34 2005 From: lfc32 at earthlink.net (Loren Castro) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 09:24:34 -0700 Subject: [Squaredancing] Border problems In-Reply-To: <12a.5c80087e.2fa7a392@aol.com> References: <12a.5c80087e.2fa7a392@aol.com> Message-ID: <42765442.2020307@earthlink.net> Ah, I see. Terrorists pour through; square dance callers are threatened and denied access. The INS strikes again. lfc ----- CALLERTIM at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 01/05/2005 3:18:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > dave at daveswebplace.net writes: > > I don't have any more details on the problems. He was scheduled > to call in Rochester, NY, and someone else had to step into his > place at the last minute. I was hoping someone on this list could > shed some more light on the issue. > > Hello Dave...thanks for the note...below is a brief explanation of > about a week ago...as of today, I am seeking a Visa, and working on a > petition for a judge. I have all my "stuff" back (that part was a bit > of a misinterpretation) and I have a lawyer working on my behalf. > > Thanks for the interest....wish me luck!! > > ____________________________________________ > > I AM SORRY FOR THE SHORT NOTICE, but I regret that the US immigration > service has denied me entry to the United States for the purpose of > calling for a period not less than my appeal and petition period. > > On Saturday, I was to be calling in Rochester NY, then PA. While > trying to cross the border, and on a routine security check, the guard > determined that I was going to call a dance (which I was honest about) > and then determined that it is a "job" and so I was denied entry, my > possessions impounded and returned to Canada. I missed both Dances. > Further they have denied my entry until a satisfactory position can be > determined within the government to determine if the "cultural > exchange" rules that we have enjoyed between our 2 counties should be > empowered here or not. > > In the meantime, they have restricted my access rights entirely. > > I have spent 3 days with Lawyers and judges, petitioning them to grant > me either a B1V visa, or an E visa, and as of today, they have made no > determination. Currently I am in limbo, but I do know that crossing > the border to call a dance would have me arrested. > > Today, I was granted the right to enter only for recreational > purposes, and they cautioned me that my calling cannot be considered > that until after the petition period. I have applied for a US Visa at > the cost of $1000us application fee plus legal costs. I am advised the > process can be as short as 3 weeks, and as long as 3 years, and > finally there is no guarantee. > > I am so sorry to drop this on you, and I will call you all in the next > few days. > > US security has dramatically affected cross border commerce, and it > would seem that there is no interpretation other than the letter of > the law! > > I SINCERELY wish there was more I could do! My deepest apologies. > > Tim Crawford > 2229 Sunnyside Dr. > Burlington, ON, L7M 4K8 > 905 332 7597 > WWW.CALLERTIM.COM > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Tim Crawford > 2229 Sunnyside Dr. > Burlington, ON, L7M 4K8 > 905 332 7597 > WWW.CALLERTIM.COM > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Squaredancing mailing list >Squaredancing at rbnsn.com >http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.1 - Release Date: 5/2/2005 From ljknews at mac.com Wed May 11 11:33:54 2005 From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:33:54 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Dancing in Berlin in mid-May In-Reply-To: <25419.1110838475@www51.gmx.net> References: <25419.1110838475@www51.gmx.net> Message-ID: I have a friend who is going to Germany on vacation and was interested in the possibility of squaredancing while there. But the web sites he found did not give him confidence that the clubs involved were surely dancing on the dates he will be there. Perhaps Heiner or someone else appropriately situated can give a comment which I will relay back before my friend leaves: > Hi Larry, > This is the info I found promising, but the websites haven't been > updated recently. , > I don't need directions, because I've found a great map locator for > Berlin which gives detailed close-up maps by using the address. > These all seemed within walking distance of an U-Bahn station. > I guess I would like some confirmation on days (particularly the > dates I'm there, times, and locations). > Club Day (date I'm there) Time Location > Kiebitze (mains) Montag (May 16,23) 19:00-20:45 Pausenhalle der Steinwegschule - Steinweg 11 > Dynamite Devils (plus) Montag (May 16,23) 19:30-21:30 Seniorenclub Lankwitz - Gallwitzallee 53 > Squares Up (mains) Mittwoch (May 18) Paulsenstrasse 22 > Running Bears (mains) Freitag (May 20) 19:45-22:00 Marshallstrasse 3 -- Larry Kilgallen From brucemorgan at earthlink.net Wed May 11 12:01:02 2005 From: brucemorgan at earthlink.net (Bruce) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:01:02 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Dancing in Berlin in mid-May In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003101c55642$a17755f0$8501a8c0@Bruce> IN the National Square Dance Directory there are about 5 1/2 pages for Germany. You did not state what cities you wanted but it has listings for the following: Baden - Wuertternberg Bayern Berlin Brandenburg Bremen Hamberg Hesson Niedersachsen Nordrhein - Westfallen Rheinland - Pfalz Schsen - Anhalt Schleswig - Holstein If you don't have access to the National Directory and will let me know what cities you are interested in I'll copy the pages and send them to you. Bruce Morgan -----Original Message----- From: Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com [mailto:Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf Of ljknews Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:34 AM To: This list for discussing all aspect of MWSD Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Dancing in Berlin in mid-May I have a friend who is going to Germany on vacation and was interested in the possibility of squaredancing while there. But the web sites he found did not give him confidence that the clubs involved were surely dancing on the dates he will be there. Perhaps Heiner or someone else appropriately situated can give a comment which I will relay back before my friend leaves: > Hi Larry, > This is the info I found promising, but the websites haven't been > updated recently. , > I don't need directions, because I've found a great map locator for > Berlin which gives detailed close-up maps by using the address. > These all seemed within walking distance of an U-Bahn station. > I guess I would like some confirmation on days (particularly the > dates I'm there, times, and locations). > Club Day (date I'm there) Time Location > Kiebitze (mains) Montag (May 16,23) 19:00-20:45 Pausenhalle der Steinwegschule - Steinweg 11 > Dynamite Devils (plus) Montag (May 16,23) 19:30-21:30 Seniorenclub Lankwitz - Gallwitzallee 53 > Squares Up (mains) Mittwoch (May 18) Paulsenstrasse 22 > Running Bears (mains) Freitag (May 20) 19:45-22:00 Marshallstrasse 3 -- Larry Kilgallen _______________________________________________ Squaredancing mailing list Squaredancing at rbnsn.com http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com From ljknews at mac.com Wed May 11 12:24:43 2005 From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:24:43 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Dancing in Berlin in mid-May In-Reply-To: <003101c55642$a17755f0$8501a8c0@Bruce> References: <003101c55642$a17755f0$8501a8c0@Bruce> Message-ID: At 12:01 PM -0400 5/11/05, Bruce wrote: >If you don't have access to the National Directory and will let me know what >cities you are interested in I'll copy the pages and send them to you. Actually my friend was interested in something more up-to-date than web listings he had found, so I don't think a printed document would do. -- Larry Kilgallen From brucemorgan at earthlink.net Wed May 11 13:11:25 2005 From: brucemorgan at earthlink.net (Bruce) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:11:25 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Dancing in Berlin in mid-May In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004001c5564c$76f63f80$8501a8c0@Bruce> This printed document is updated every year. That is probably more up to date than the web sites. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com [mailto:Squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf Of ljknews Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:25 PM To: This list for discussing all aspect of MWSD Subject: RE: [Squaredancing] Square Dancing in Berlin in mid-May At 12:01 PM -0400 5/11/05, Bruce wrote: >If you don't have access to the National Directory and will let me know what >cities you are interested in I'll copy the pages and send them to you. Actually my friend was interested in something more up-to-date than web listings he had found, so I don't think a printed document would do. -- Larry Kilgallen _______________________________________________ Squaredancing mailing list Squaredancing at rbnsn.com http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com From htrost at onlinehome.de Wed May 11 14:25:19 2005 From: htrost at onlinehome.de (Heinz D. Trost) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:25:19 +0200 Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Dancing in Berlin in mid-May In-Reply-To: References: <25419.1110838475@www51.gmx.net> Message-ID: <42824E0F.1070203@onlinehome.de> Larry et al, I actually try to reach the contact persons of the listed clubs in Berlin to ask them. In general the most actually club listing is at http://www.eaasdc.de But actually I reached the contact person of >>Running Bears (mains) Freitag (May 20) 19:45-22:00 Marshallstrasse 3 >> >> and he told me that YES they will dance on Friday, May 20nd at their dance location Other informations will follow after I 'll get them. Heinz From ljknews at mac.com Wed May 11 14:18:27 2005 From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:18:27 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Dancing in Berlin in mid-May In-Reply-To: <42824E0F.1070203@onlinehome.de> References: <25419.1110838475@www51.gmx.net> <42824E0F.1070203@onlinehome.de> Message-ID: At 8:25 PM +0200 5/11/05, Heinz D. Trost wrote: >Larry et al, > >I actually try to reach the contact persons of the listed clubs in Berlin to ask them. >In general the most actually club listing is at http://www.eaasdc.de > >But actually I reached the contact person of > > >>>Running Bears (mains) Freitag (May 20) 19:45-22:00 Marshallstrasse 3 >>> >>> > >and he told me that YES they will dance on Friday, May 20nd at their dance location > >Other informations will follow after I 'll get them. Thanks very much, Heinz. I have forwarded that first response along, so I would estimate that Running Bears have themselves a visitor. -- Larry Kilgallen From htrost at onlinehome.de Wed May 11 14:56:11 2005 From: htrost at onlinehome.de (Heinz D. Trost) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:56:11 +0200 Subject: [Squaredancing] Square Dancing in Berlin in mid-May In-Reply-To: References: <25419.1110838475@www51.gmx.net> <42824E0F.1070203@onlinehome.de> Message-ID: <4282554B.5000807@onlinehome.de> Larry, you're welcome. Actually the contact persons of the other clubs are out, e.g. for dancing (it's club dance time now (and one of the listed clubs is one who dances on Wesdnesdays), here in Germany it's 8.50 pm now, so dancers will be on the floor. But I'll try it to get more of the listed club dance nights confirmed. BTW: Almost all clubs in Berlin do work together and give their data to a homepage for all Berlin clubs which is updated very well. But in detail it's always better to ask the clubs contact person by phone if they'd dance on the wished day. I'll share upcoming information with you ASAP. Heinz From squarekopp at gmx.de Wed May 11 16:29:23 2005 From: squarekopp at gmx.de (squarekopp at gmx.de) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:29:23 +0200 (MEST) Subject: [Squaredancing] Clips from trad-dance-callers@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <14560.1115843363@www6.gmx.net> Sylvia M.: I was almost excluded once and excluded once. The first time was many years ago, I had just moved to a new location, my husband and I were told about the square dance. He didn't feel well so I went alone. The caller's wife greeted me and said that no one would dance with me as I was alone. She knew from experience, no one danced with her. I stuck it out and people were nice enough to dance with me but I had the feeling that were I a genuine single I would not have been welcomed back. The 2nd time was a dance advertized in the newspaper. I phoned for directions and said I had a lot of experience with square dancing. When I arrived I was quizzed as to my experience, how many lessons I had had (35 years of general square dancing didn't qualify), and gently told that I would not be able to keep up, I would not have fun and the others in my square would not have fun and I could come back after I had had lessons. I never got past the admissions table. The local mwsd club is crying for members but they are not willing to accept anyone who hasn't signed up for their weekly series of lessons. Clark B.: I believe that any MWSD club would be happy to have anyone dancing there who can do the moves and not break down the square. The way that 99% of dancers attain that ability is to go through lessons (or class) which meets once a week for 30 weeks. I know this goes against trad squares and contras ability to welcome newcomers in at every dance. It may be hard to believe that there is so much to learn or that just doing traditional squares and contras for 35 years one wouldn't encounter and learn all that needs to be learned. Trust me, the best long time experienced traditional square dancer wouldn't have a chance dancing at a Plus level MWSD dance. Each dance is like a no walkthru contra with a vocabulary of 100 moves of which you only know 30. If you hit something you didn't know 1 call in 10 you could recover, but hitting something unknown every other call is disaster. Sylvia M: The mwsd club in my area offers 2 free evenings in the fall and I went to one. If I had no other dance outlet I would have been more enthusiastic but they really want people to sign up for their weekly lessons and I could not attend every lesson. I have a regular playing job the 2nd Wednesday of each month and often have a Wednesday night meeting. That takes care of 50% of the lesson time and I don't think it would be fair to sign up knowing that I would only make at most half of the lessons. Heiner Fischle: Any comments? From ljknews at mac.com Wed May 11 18:47:22 2005 From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:47:22 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Clips from trad-dance-callers@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <14560.1115843363@www6.gmx.net> References: <14560.1115843363@www6.gmx.net> Message-ID: At 10:29 PM +0200 5/11/05, squarekopp at gmx.de wrote: >Sylvia M: >The mwsd club in my area offers 2 free evenings in the fall and I went to >one. If I had no other dance outlet I would have been more enthusiastic >but >they really want people to sign up for their weekly lessons and I could not > >attend every lesson. > >I have a regular playing job the 2nd Wednesday of each month and often have >a >Wednesday night meeting. That takes care of 50% of the lesson time and I >don't >think it would be fair to sign up knowing that I would only make at most >half of >the lessons. > >Heiner Fischle: >Any comments? I think anyone experienced in contra dancing in that situation should have the boldness to make their needs known to the person telling them no. Around Boston, suburban clubs who find you cannot attend their own class will gladly refer you to a neighboring club whose class is on a different night of the week. >From the few contra dancers I have seen learning MWSD they have an easier time of it than those of us who started cold. It might be reasonable in some high population areas for someone to run a class called "MWSD for contra dancers". -- Larry Kilgallen From squarekopp at gmx.de Thu May 12 16:07:43 2005 From: squarekopp at gmx.de (squarekopp at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 22:07:43 +0200 (MEST) Subject: [Squaredancing] RE: Square Dancing in Berlin Message-ID: <23035.1115928463@www72.gmx.net> I daresay the informations in the National Directory and on the webpages are at least 95% correct. Deviations may occur from unforeseen emergencies or from unforeseen opportunities. But with 3 phone numbers to contact, your friend can for sure get 100% valid information when he is there. Most clubs dance every week, so updates of the webpage are necessary only for the annual "special event". All the other information remains valid for a long time. Yours squarely Heiner Fischle Hannover, Germany http://www.heinerfischle.de (bilingual, and partially updated at least every fortnight) From giulio at space.net.au Fri May 20 03:59:09 2005 From: giulio at space.net.au (Massarotto family) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 15:59:09 +0800 Subject: [Squaredancing] Dancing in Belfast, Ireland Message-ID: <000001c55d11$feed02e0$da515bcb@Administrator> Hi does anyone know if there is any square dancing in Belfast, Ireland? My father-in-law is going over to visit relatives and is keen to get some square dancing in. regards Giulio -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1635 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! From dave at daveswebplace.net Sun May 22 19:13:05 2005 From: dave at daveswebplace.net (dave.hinde) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 19:13:05 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Dancing in Asia and Australia In-Reply-To: <000001c55d11$feed02e0$da515bcb@Administrator> Message-ID: <1116803571_257866@rcmdxmail02> I am putting together a trip to Southeast Asia, and possibly to Australia, this October. Is there anyone on this list from that side of the world? Does anyone have any good email contacts for there? My plans are to fly into Bangkok to visit a friend. Either on the way over or back I'll spend a week in Japan. While there I may also fly to Australia for a week or more. My itinerary isn't cast in stone yet, so I can adjust travel around any special dances. Thanks for any info you may have, Dave From giulio at space.net.au Mon May 23 19:25:49 2005 From: giulio at space.net.au (Massarotto family) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 07:25:49 +0800 Subject: [Squaredancing] Dancing in Asia and Australia References: <1116803571_257866@rcmdxmail02> Message-ID: <019601c55fee$ce529160$d0525bcb@Administrator> Gday Dave you might want to try these websites. They will give you most of what you need for square dancing in Australia. http://www.dosado.com/clubsorgs/default.htm#Australia http://www.squaredanceaustralia.com/ regards Giulio Perth. Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave.hinde" To: "'This list for discussing all aspect of MWSD'" Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 7:13 AM Subject: [Squaredancing] Dancing in Asia and Australia > I am putting together a trip to Southeast Asia, and possibly to Australia, > this October. Is there anyone on this list from that side of the world? > Does anyone have any good email contacts for there? My plans are to fly > into Bangkok to visit a friend. Either on the way over or back I'll spend a > week in Japan. While there I may also fly to Australia for a week or more. > My itinerary isn't cast in stone yet, so I can adjust travel around any > special dances. > > Thanks for any info you may have, > > Dave > > > > _______________________________________________ > Squaredancing mailing list > Squaredancing at rbnsn.com > http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com > From squarekopp at gmx.de Fri May 27 19:03:14 2005 From: squarekopp at gmx.de (squarekopp at gmx.de) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 01:03:14 +0200 (MEST) Subject: [Squaredancing] Off topic: How to improve our world Message-ID: <654.1117234994@www42.gmx.net> I posted 5 ways how to improve our world at http://www.heinerfischle.de/meinung/improve.htm Please answer privately, if you must at all. (Or sign the guestbook) Yours squarely Heiner Fischle, der Squarekopp Hannover, Germany