From kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com Thu Oct 16 00:27:20 2008 From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com (Ken Robinson) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:27:20 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Possible On Line Replacement for this list Message-ID: Hi all, Seeing that activity on this list is piratically non-existent, I have installed and configured an on-line forum as a possible replacement for the list. The forum can be found at . You have to register to post and I have to approve all registrations. Hopefully, this will keep out the spammers. The forum is (and always will be) a work in progress. Not all the boards have been created, so if you don't see one you think should be there, please post in the suggestions area. Ken Robinson Hillsborough, NJ/Baltimore, MD Squaredancing List Owner From htrost at gmx.de Thu Oct 16 02:18:33 2008 From: htrost at gmx.de (Heinz D. Trost) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:18:33 +0200 Subject: [Squaredancing] Possible On Line Replacement for this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48F6DCB9.2030108@gmx.de> Hi Ken, that's a good idea, I think. Heinz Germany Ken Robinson schrieb: > Hi all, > > Seeing that activity on this list is piratically non-existent, I have > installed and configured an on-line forum as a possible replacement for > the list. > > The forum can be found at . You have > to register to post and I have to approve all registrations. Hopefully, > this will keep out the spammers. > > The forum is (and always will be) a work in progress. Not all the boards > have been created, so if you don't see one you think should be there, > please post in the suggestions area. > > Ken Robinson > Hillsborough, NJ/Baltimore, MD > Squaredancing List Owner > > > _______________________________________________ > Squaredancing mailing list > Squaredancing at rbnsn.com > http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com > From WA8VEC at ARRL.NET Thu Oct 16 06:57:34 2008 From: WA8VEC at ARRL.NET (Mike Gormley) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:57:34 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Possible On Line Replacement for this list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48F71E1E.1020200@ARRL.NET> Ken Robinson wrote: > Hi all, > > Seeing that activity on this list is piratically non-existent, I have > installed and configured an on-line forum as a possible replacement > for the list. > > The forum can be found at . You have > to register to post and I have to approve all registrations. > Hopefully, this will keep out the spammers. > > The forum is (and always will be) a work in progress. Not all the > boards have been created, so if you don't see one you think should be > there, please post in the suggestions area. > > Ken Robinson > Hillsborough, NJ/Baltimore, MD > Squaredancing List Owner > I would rather see discussions come DIRECTLY TO MY MAIL BOX. They are practically instantaneous in arrival. I would highly unlikely seek a web site for discussions. If I did, responses would be perhaps as much a ONE MONTH LATE. Who wants to wait one month for an answer to a query, etc. I think this is a poor idea. Mike Gormley From kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com Thu Oct 16 07:55:58 2008 From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com (Ken Robinson) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:55:58 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Possible On Line Replacement for this list In-Reply-To: <48F71E1E.1020200@ARRL.NET> References: <48F71E1E.1020200@ARRL.NET> Message-ID: At 06:57 AM 10/16/2008, Mike Gormley wrote: >I would rather see discussions come DIRECTLY TO MY MAIL BOX. They >are practically instantaneous in arrival. I would highly unlikely >seek a web site for discussions. If I did, responses would be >perhaps as much a ONE MONTH LATE. Who wants to wait one month for >an answer to a query, etc. > >I think this is a poor idea. I understand your concern. When you create a topic or reply to a topic, you can ask to be notified by email when a reply is posted. There are also options that can be set so you can receive email notification when any topic is created or replied to. Ken From BOBBSHARP at aol.com Thu Oct 16 11:53:04 2008 From: BOBBSHARP at aol.com (BOBBSHARP at aol.com) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:53:04 EDT Subject: [Squaredancing] Possible On Line Replacement for this list Message-ID: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com writes: The forum can be found at . Hi Ken - I hope you are familiar with my oral history project that is posted on sdfne.org - (Library) and contains over 125 interviews that I have made since 1996. I believe your forum makes an important contribution to our SD activity and I would like to do a telephone interview with you at your con venience. I'm sure you will be busy setting up this new venture so please indicate when would be a good time for us to get together. I'll look forward to your reply. BTW - I tried to log in as a member but the user name I chose (Bob Brundage) was rejected. How do I register? **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. 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URL: From ljknews at mac.com Thu Oct 16 15:45:56 2008 From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:45:56 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Possible On Line Replacement for this list In-Reply-To: <"101620081938.25630.48F7984F000CCA510000641E22230706129B0A02D29B9B0EBF0E9 B90020E979D06"@att.net> References: <48F71E1E.1020200@ARRL.NET> <"101620081938.25630.48F7984F000CCA510000641E22230706129B0A02D29B9B0EBF0E9B 90020E979D06"@att.net> Message-ID: At 7:38 PM +0000 10/16/08, jryanvta at att.net wrote: > I disagree as well. Not going to go to web site, > but surely am going to see email discussions. Me too. -- Larry Kilgallen From david at ameeti.us Thu Oct 16 16:05:37 2008 From: david at ameeti.us (David Ameeti) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:05:37 -0700 Subject: [Squaredancing] World Square Dance 2000 -- life support status Message-ID: Yes, David Ameeti is still alive. He can be contacted at -- yes, a very complex email address. And, yes, he has a personal site: http://david.ameeti.us -- again, too complex for some. :-) You can contact him re wsd2000.org at his personal email address. He's been fairly busy with some other projects, but re wsd2000, the last status was that it was on hold, but is still something that could occur. The biggest problem being that most dance locations do not have any Internet access. He checked with many clubs and most were at schools and/or churches that were not considered to be technology leaders. :-) He still has a database of the clubs that were surveyed, including contact info for all of them (assuming most are still good) and hopes to re-contact many of the clubs next year to get a more current status of their dance facilities. The idea is still a great idea. The good news is that he's recently gained more extensive knowledge of web site databases and is in a better position to write the web site tracking portion, both for registration and for real-time dance tracking during the actual event. For more info, contact him directly -- some even say he's a nice guy. (We all have our own opinions.) --DD -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com Thu Oct 16 16:19:15 2008 From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com (Ken Robinson) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:19:15 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Possible On Line Replacement for this list In-Reply-To: References: <48F71E1E.1020200@ARRL.NET> <"101620081938.25630.48F7984F000CCA510000641E22230706129B0A02D29B9B0EBF0E9B 90020E979D06"@att.net> Message-ID: <020301c92fcc$77ddd3b0$67997b10$@com> > > At 7:38 PM +0000 10/16/08, jryanvta at att.net wrote: > > > I disagree as well. Not going to go to web site, > > but surely am going to see email discussions. > > Me too. If I can integrate the forum with the email list would that satisfy those people who don't want to use the web-based forum? I'm looking into this possibility. This would allow people to post messages and see replies via email as well as in the forum. I've just started to research this modification to the forum, so don't get your hopes up... Ken From cvsmith911 at verizon.net Thu Oct 16 16:32:14 2008 From: cvsmith911 at verizon.net (Charlie Smith) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:32:14 -0700 Subject: [Squaredancing] Possible On Line Replacement for this list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <90730A254B77470887B02D57F1206F9B@Kitchen3> FWIW, I was involved with a software mail list that went the same way, to a web based arrangement. Traffic slowed dramatically, and the list almost dissolved before someone found a way to put it back on a "direct-to-inbox" basis. Never did recover to previous levels. OTOH, traffic on this list is already extremely low. Unless there is a compelling economic reason, I wouldn't change. Charlie -----Original Message----- From: squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com [mailto:squaredancing-bounces at rbnsn.com] On Behalf Of Ken Robinson Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:56 AM To: This list for discussing all aspect of MWSD Subject: Re: [Squaredancing] Possible On Line Replacement for this list At 06:57 AM 10/16/2008, Mike Gormley wrote: >I would rather see discussions come DIRECTLY TO MY MAIL BOX. They >are practically instantaneous in arrival. I would highly unlikely >seek a web site for discussions. If I did, responses would be >perhaps as much a ONE MONTH LATE. Who wants to wait one month for >an answer to a query, etc. > >I think this is a poor idea. I understand your concern. When you create a topic or reply to a topic, you can ask to be notified by email when a reply is posted. There are also options that can be set so you can receive email notification when any topic is created or replied to. Ken _______________________________________________ Squaredancing mailing list Squaredancing at rbnsn.com http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com From wclaytor at hotmail.com Thu Oct 16 17:09:17 2008 From: wclaytor at hotmail.com (W Claytor) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:09:17 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Possible On Line Replacement for this list In-Reply-To: <020301c92fcc$77ddd3b0$67997b10$@com> References: <48F71E1E.1020200@ARRL.NET> < <020301c92fcc$77ddd3b0$67997b10$@com> Message-ID: I knew you would have a solution, Ken > From: kenrbnsn at rbnsn.com> To: squaredancing at rbnsn.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:19:15 -0400> Subject: Re: [Squaredancing] Possible On Line Replacement for this list> > > > > > > At 7:38 PM +0000 10/16/08, jryanvta at att.net wrote:> > > > > I disagree as well. Not going to go to web site,> > > but surely am going to see email discussions.> > > > Me too.> > > If I can integrate the forum with the email list would that satisfy those> people who don't want to use the web-based forum? I'm looking into this> possibility. This would allow people to post messages and see replies via> email as well as in the forum. I've just started to research this> modification to the forum, so don't get your hopes up... > > Ken> > > _______________________________________________> Squaredancing mailing list> Squaredancing at rbnsn.com> http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com _________________________________________________________________ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From squarekopp at gmx.de Fri Oct 17 11:47:54 2008 From: squarekopp at gmx.de (Karl-Heinrich Fischle) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:47:54 +0200 Subject: [Squaredancing] Possible On Line Replacement for this list Message-ID: <20081017154754.230710@gmx.net> > Seeing that activity on this list is piratically non-existent Who kidnapped it? ;-) Heiner Fischle, der Squarekopp www.heinerfischle.de From WA8VEC at ARRL.NET Fri Oct 17 17:22:34 2008 From: WA8VEC at ARRL.NET (Mike Gormley) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:22:34 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Possible On Line Replacement for this list In-Reply-To: <20081017154754.230710@gmx.net> References: <20081017154754.230710@gmx.net> Message-ID: <48F9021A.5030609@ARRL.NET> Karl-Heinrich Fischle wrote: >> Seeing that activity on this list is piratically non-existent >> > > Who kidnapped it? ;-) > > Heiner Fischle, der Squarekopp > www.heinerfischle.de > > ____ I think, there is a chance, a lot of the things that should be discussed on this list are discussed on the other list, where they probably don't belong. 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(Is moving things from one list to another a MWSD affliction?) Or we could gossip ... ;-) Just call 'em anecdotes . Martin Schiller 77 Du Bois Lane Saint Helens, OR 97051 From cynde at twistercom.fi Sun Oct 19 07:04:09 2008 From: cynde at twistercom.fi (Cynde Sadler) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:04:09 +0300 Subject: [Squaredancing] Possible On Line Replacement for this list References: <48F71E1E.1020200@ARRL.NET> <101620081938.25630.48F7984F000CCA510000641E22230706129B0A02D29B9B0EBF0E9B90020E979D06@att.net> Message-ID: <86FFD7199B3942468E336A226927502B@736ce0a6d71648c> I have seen other lists discussing this sort of thing as the way of the future but I disagree as well. Given the small amount of traffic we usually get as it is, I feel a forum would disolve entirely. Wouldn't it require regular visits to check through all the subject areas for any potential posts? This list is a quiet one but when a subject comes up there are lots of comments right away. Is the amount of spam a big problem for the owner? (I know it is here in my home mailbox) Cynde > I disagree as well. Not going to go to web site, but surely am going to > see email discussions. > > John > -- > J Ryan > PO Box 6191 > Ventura, CA 93006 > > > -------------- Original message from Mike Gormley > : -------------- > > >> Ken Robinson wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Seeing that activity on this list is piratically non-existent, I have >> > installed and configured an on-line forum as a possible replacement >> > for the list. >> > >> > The forum can be found at . You have >> > to register to post and I have to approve all registrations. >> > Hopefully, this will keep out the spammers. >> > >> > The forum is (and always will be) a work in progress. Not all the >> > boards have been created, so if you don't see one you think should be >> > there, please post in the suggestions area. >> > >> > Ken Robinson >> > Hillsborough, NJ/Baltimore, MD >> > Squaredancing List Owner >> > >> I would rather see discussions come DIRECTLY TO MY MAIL BOX. They are >> practically instantaneous in arrival. I would highly unlikely seek a >> web site for discussions. If I did, responses would be perhaps as much >> a ONE MONTH LATE. Who wants to wait one month for an answer to a query, >> etc. >> >> I think this is a poor idea. >> >> Mike Gormley >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Squaredancing mailing list >> Squaredancing at rbnsn.com >> http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > _______________________________________________ > Squaredancing mailing list > Squaredancing at rbnsn.com > http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com > > From cynde at twistercom.fi Sun Oct 19 07:05:20 2008 From: cynde at twistercom.fi (Cynde Sadler) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:05:20 +0300 Subject: [Squaredancing] Possible On Line Replacement for this list References: <48F71E1E.1020200@ARRL.NET> <"101620081938.25630.48F7984F000CCA510000641E22230706129B0A02D29B9B0EBF0E9B 90020E979D06"@att.net> <020301c92fcc$77ddd3b0$67997b10$@com> Message-ID: Yes, it would help. >> >> > I disagree as well. Not going to go to web site, >> > but surely am going to see email discussions. >> >> Me too. > > > If I can integrate the forum with the email list would that satisfy those > people who don't want to use the web-based forum? I'm looking into this > possibility. This would allow people to post messages and see replies via > email as well as in the forum. I've just started to research this > modification to the forum, so don't get your hopes up... > > Ken > > > _______________________________________________ > Squaredancing mailing list > Squaredancing at rbnsn.com > http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com > > From WA8VEC at ARRL.NET Mon Oct 20 06:57:59 2008 From: WA8VEC at ARRL.NET (Mike Gormley) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:57:59 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] Bruce Morgan Message-ID: <48FC6437.6070706@ARRL.NET> Bruce, Please contact me........my email to you was returned. Mike Gormley wa8vec at arrl.net From mschiller at pobox.com Sun Oct 26 14:02:27 2008 From: mschiller at pobox.com (martin) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:02:27 -0700 Subject: [Squaredancing] regarding classes Message-ID: Has anyone any experience with a class that qualifies as 'mainstream for plus dancers'? If so, what was the response, and would it be worthwhile to repeat ? If not, do you have any thoughts re the value of a class with that purpose ? regards, martin (nw oregon) From ljknews at mac.com Sun Oct 26 14:35:43 2008 From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:35:43 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] regarding classes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 11:02 AM -0700 10/26/08, martin wrote: > Has anyone any experience with a class that qualifies as 'mainstream > for plus dancers'? If so, what was the response, and would it be > worthwhile to repeat ? If not, do you have any thoughts re the value > of a class with that purpose ? I don't understand the purpose. No caller around here can call Plus without using Mainstream calls. Once the dancers are in a column, of course, the caller can alternate between Coordinate and Crossfire ad nauseum, but that is really what it would be - ad nauseum. -- Larry Kilgallen From htrost at gmx.de Sun Oct 26 14:51:51 2008 From: htrost at gmx.de (Heinz D. Trost) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:51:51 +0100 Subject: [Squaredancing] regarding classes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4904BC47.5070604@gmx.de> Martin et al, > Has anyone any experience with a class that qualifies as 'mainstream > for plus dancers'? If so, what was the response, and would it be > worthwhile to repeat ? If not, do you have any thoughts re the value > of a class with that purpose ? we have the Stoke Boat Promenaders, a club which is member of our SquareRoundRegion Stuttart (SRRS) association (http://www.srrs.de). They saw that there are a significant number of dancers (graduated at Mainstream, Plus, in some cases A1, too) who still havesome problems with calls from Basic and Mainstream list. And so they hired the caller and caller coach Hans-Gerd Gasser (who is an absolute smooth teacher, too) for a special event. They named it "Dance school". Three years ago they started the first one, and it was attended by more than 60 dancers, including a lot of plus and higher graduated. Everybody was welcome there, and those who were higher level graduated but had some problems with some calls from the lower basic and/or mainstream list were able to mask themselves as angels, so they can't lose their countenance. Hans-Gerd and their club caller Wolfgang let them dance first (Mainstream and Basic), and had a look where several dancers had problems, and then they made workshop tips especially with these calls which were so hard for some of the present dancers. The event went well and dancers and the club were so happy that the club decided to have an annually "Dance school" event in upcoming years, too. And so it still is, next February 14th will see the 4th "Dance school" there! Heinz From htrost at gmx.de Sun Oct 26 15:23:52 2008 From: htrost at gmx.de (Heinz D. Trost) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:23:52 +0100 Subject: [Squaredancing] regarding classes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4904C3C8.6060302@gmx.de> Larry et al, I'm sorry, but there are a lot of plus graduated dancers who can't dance Mainstream without breaking the squares. E.g. my first stay in the USA as a graduated mainstream dancer (graduated at July 1st, 1999, just to be permitted to attend the 3-day "Happy Birthday" special dance with Jerry Story, Tony Oxendine, Paul Bristow and Juergen Weresch a weekend later) at Dec. 27th I attendend a dance in Houston, TX. The caller was the famous Johnnie Wykoff. I introduced myself to Johnnie as a mainstream only dancer from Germany. And Johnnie agreed to make several tips in pure mainstream between the plus tips. Then before one tip he gave me a sign and so I went on the floor into a square. Johnnie started the tip and it was real pure Mainstream, he just dissolved the plus calls in mainstream and I had absolutely no problems to dance it without any mistakes. And the square I was in also had no problems, too. But most of the other 15 or so squares had big problems and/or broke. And so after this tip Johnnie told me: "Sorry Heinz, but my dancers can't dance Mainstream!" and the following tips were the regular soft plus they were used to dance in that area,- and I stayed out. So there are plus dancers who can't dance regular Mainstream without mistakes. Heinz ljknews schrieb: > At 11:02 AM -0700 10/26/08, martin wrote: > > >> Has anyone any experience with a class that qualifies as 'mainstream >> for plus dancers'? If so, what was the response, and would it be >> worthwhile to repeat ? If not, do you have any thoughts re the value >> of a class with that purpose ? >> > > I don't understand the purpose. No caller around here can > call Plus without using Mainstream calls. Once the dancers > are in a column, of course, the caller can alternate between > Coordinate and Crossfire ad nauseum, but that is really what > it would be - ad nauseum. > From catcaller at gmail.com Sun Oct 26 15:42:06 2008 From: catcaller at gmail.com (Candy Hughes) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:42:06 -0700 Subject: [Squaredancing] regarding classes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Martin, I have the feeling that if you advertise it as "Mainstream DBD Workshop", that you will be more likely to get attendance from Plus dancers many people dancing Plus that I know, would not be likely to go to a CLASS advertised as Mainstream ... they feel they have "been there, done that", even if they are particularly competent at some Mainstream calls or they figure they would be Angels, and might not be in the frame of mind to LEARN something however, by calling it DBD, they will figure there is some "challenge" to the class, that it's "not the same boring old Mainstream" might help if you then teach some calls from unusual set-ups; "compare and contrast" the call as called from standard positions and from "scrrewball" ones make it fun ! most really good square dancers I know, are always learning something new, always open to a different interpretation .... in contrast to those who show up to "help" at Mainstream classes for new dancers, as a "duty", and just kind of walk through in a daze, or try to show off by using nonstandard styling, twirls, and cutting up might be fun, also, for you to announce, on occasion, that the men will have to dance Girl and the women will have to dance Boy, for the next tip .... if you are careful in your advertising of this "class", you will gather a group which really wants to learn, which relishes the challenge Candy (who would really enjoy such a class) From cynde at twistercom.fi Sun Oct 26 18:25:15 2008 From: cynde at twistercom.fi (Cynde Sadler) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:25:15 +0200 Subject: [Squaredancing] regarding classes References: <4904C3C8.6060302@gmx.de> Message-ID: <048112872ABF490B99CCF8EA600F26BE@736ce0a6d71648c> I usually dance in Hamburg, Germany, and there I was told that dancers often will stay in Mainstream for many years before 'going on' to Plus. The callers I've danced to call a mean Mainstream giving the dancers a lot of challenge yet staying within the MS boundries. They have different clubs set up for other levels and dancers can go to a Mainstream on Wednesday and a plus group on Thursday. Often it's the same dancers so they know their stuff. IMHO I feel it's too bad when dancers rush off to 'higher levels' and then mess up the square because they can't remember a turn through.. Cynde -------------------------------------------------- From: "Heinz D. Trost" Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:23 PM To: "This list for discussing all aspect of MWSD" Subject: Re: [Squaredancing] regarding classes > Larry et al, > > I'm sorry, but there are a lot of plus graduated dancers who can't dance > Mainstream without breaking the squares. > > E.g. my first stay in the USA as a graduated mainstream dancer (graduated > at July 1st, 1999, just to be permitted to attend the 3-day "Happy > Birthday" special dance with Jerry Story, Tony Oxendine, Paul Bristow and > Juergen Weresch a weekend later) > at Dec. 27th I attendend a dance in Houston, TX. The caller was the famous > Johnnie Wykoff. I introduced myself to Johnnie as a mainstream only dancer > from Germany. And Johnnie agreed to make several tips in pure mainstream > between the plus tips. > > Then before one tip he gave me a sign and so I went on the floor into a > square. Johnnie started the tip and it was real pure Mainstream, he just > dissolved the plus calls in mainstream and I had absolutely no problems to > dance it without any mistakes. And the square I was in also had no > problems, too. > But most of the other 15 or so squares had big problems and/or broke. And > so after this tip Johnnie told me: "Sorry Heinz, but my dancers can't > dance Mainstream!" and the following tips were the regular soft plus they > were used to dance in that area,- and I stayed out. > > So there are plus dancers who can't dance regular Mainstream without > mistakes. > > Heinz > > > > ljknews schrieb: >> At 11:02 AM -0700 10/26/08, martin wrote: >> >> >>> Has anyone any experience with a class that qualifies as 'mainstream >>> for plus dancers'? If so, what was the response, and would it be >>> worthwhile to repeat ? If not, do you have any thoughts re the value >>> of a class with that purpose ? >>> >> >> I don't understand the purpose. No caller around here can >> call Plus without using Mainstream calls. Once the dancers >> are in a column, of course, the caller can alternate between >> Coordinate and Crossfire ad nauseum, but that is really what >> it would be - ad nauseum. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Squaredancing mailing list > Squaredancing at rbnsn.com > http://rbnsn.com/mailman/listinfo/squaredancing_rbnsn.com > > From ljknews at mac.com Sun Oct 26 19:38:05 2008 From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:38:05 -0400 Subject: [Squaredancing] regarding classes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 12:42 PM -0700 10/26/08, Candy Hughes wrote: > Martin, I have the feeling that if you advertise it as "Mainstream DBD > Workshop", that you will be more likely to get attendance from Plus > dancers Or advertise it as a plain DBD workshop and say you have to be a Plus dancer to attend. -- Larry Kilgallen