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<DIV>Not sure about all areas however many of my dresses were given to me</DIV>
<DIV>when first started to dance. If you let people know you are willing and actually proud to receive their outfits many will come your way. </DIV>
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<DIV>Ask around find out who has quite dancing then call them to see if you </DIV>
<DIV>can purchase their clothing. If they have a lot make a deal for all the items</DIV>
<DIV>more than likely you will come out better financially this way. </DIV>
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<DIV>From one lady when first started bought her entire wardrobe for $300.00</DIV>
<DIV>this included 14 petticoats some crystal and lame, all in great condition, 23 outfits, 7 skirts, along with 11 tops. What is great about this you can sell the ones you do not like or share them with other dancers.</DIV>
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<DIV>The Federation in my area has a back room with male and female clothing for sale and <STRONG>free</STRONG> both. Last years president put out 4 racks of free petti-coats, outfits, dresses and petti-pants of her own to anyone who wanted them.</DIV>
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<DIV>Several of the larger cities in the states around my area have </DIV>
<DIV>clothing for sale most priced very low. When you travel ask around </DIV>
<DIV>you never know what you will find. Albuquerque NM has a really nice </DIV>
<DIV>little store at one dance they sold men's and women's shirts for only $!.00 each during the dance. </DIV>
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<DIV>We like to make sure our new dancers start out with 2 or 3 free outfits. Then there is ebay for some really nice deals. Paid as little as .6 cents for a new pair of coast shoes.the most have paid was $42.00 and they are $350.00 professional dance shoes. Helps to have small feet. LOL</DIV>
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<DIV>You can watch places like Hobby Lobby for fabric sales. One of my </DIV>
<DIV>dresses is silk organize the fabric was $29.00 a yard regularly, </DIV>
<DIV>on sale paid $2.00 a yard so the dress cost a total of $15.00 zipper, </DIV>
<DIV>trim and all. JoAnn;s fabrics has some really great deals as well. </DIV>
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<DIV>My Halloween out fit this year will be lime green and black spider webs paid .42 cents a yard for the material last November. The dress cost a total of $6.00, paid $10.00 for a crystal petti-coat add my .6 cent shoes </DIV>
<DIV>a dollar belt, along with free pettipants. Total cost $17.06 </DIV>
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<DIV>My last year Nationals dress found at a second hand store called </DIV>
<DIV>Savers for $35.00. The dress is a designer label with full beaded bodice</DIV>
<DIV>it was new with the tags still on it, priced new $5,000.00. Simply cut</DIV>
<DIV>the length off leaving lots of material to make the mans outfit to match. </DIV>
<DIV>Even if you do not sew one could have the cleaners do this for a </DIV>
<DIV>few dollars. Made the blue lame petticoat to match it for $20..00 with fabric found on sale. </DIV>
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<DIV>Have the all the local second hand stores save anything square dance</DIV>
<DIV>for me. The Salvation army cost is $1.49 each item. If do not like it </DIV>
<DIV>or can not wear it then take it to the federation for their back room to share.</DIV>
<DIV>When you pay this little for items you can afford to donate thus making it</DIV>
<DIV>possible for others to join the fun in dressing up for an awesome night </DIV>
<DIV>of dancing away from all the realities of real life.</DIV>
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<DIV>If you are inventive dressing well can be reasonable in cost and fun.</DIV>
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<DIV>Brenda </DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>From:</B></I> <A href="mailto:dave@daveswebplace.net">Dave Hinde</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Date:</B></I> 7/4/2007 9:11:13 AM</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>To:</B></I> <A href="mailto:squaredancing@rbnsn.com">'This list for discussing all aspect of MWSD'</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: [Squaredancing] Discussion on the National in CharlotteDresscode</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>I thought I'd throw a couple more logs on the clothing fire:</DIV>
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<DIV>Cost is one consideration. What is the cost to own enough dresses to attend</DIV>
<DIV>a National. Do we want to eliminate the newest dancers from our Conventions</DIV>
<DIV>just because they don't own enough clothes? How many women would like to</DIV>
<DIV>dress in "Square Dance" attire but can't afford enough dresses to attend a</DIV>
<DIV>National? Nasser's idea of a dedicated hall is a good one for that reason.</DIV>
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<DIV>When Square Dancing started out, hundreds of years ago, the dress was about</DIV>
<DIV>the same as the dancers would wear to church, and possibly to work. The</DIV>
<DIV>same standard should apply today. Common sense and common decency is the</DIV>
<DIV>only dress code that we really need.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>About panels, dress code complaints did arise at one of the panels I was</DIV>
<DIV>moderating. Since it was off topic, I steered us back on course, but not</DIV>
<DIV>before several people had agreed with the person that brought it up. The</DIV>
<DIV>comment was that if you wanted the convention to be friendlier to solos and</DIV>
<DIV>younger dancers, get rid of the antiquated dress codes.</DIV>
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<DIV>My suggestion: Worry about attendance figures. When the numbers get back up</DIV>
<DIV>over 10,000, then start talking about a dress code. Same thing with clubs.</DIV>
<DIV>If you have too many dancers attending your club dances, then enforce a</DIV>
<DIV>dress code.</DIV>
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<DIV>One more thing -- The flyer for Wichita, Kansas, for next year's National</DIV>
<DIV>Square Dance Convention, says: Proper Square Dance Attire. It does not say</DIV>
<DIV>Traditional or Modern, just "Proper". I hope (anyone from Kansas reading</DIV>
<DIV>this?) that they put a full explanation or definition in confirmation</DIV>
<DIV>letters. What happens if a new dancer attends wearing what they learned is</DIV>
<DIV>proper in their small club? They've probably spent over $1000 on travel</DIV>
<DIV>already to get there. Are you going to send them home?</DIV>
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<DIV>Just my 2 cents,</DIV>
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<DIV>Dave Hinde</DIV>
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<DIV>[<A href="mailto:squaredancing-bounces@rbnsn.com">mailto:squaredancing-bounces@rbnsn.com</A>] On Behalf Of Ken Robinson</DIV>
<DIV>Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 9:10 AM</DIV>
<DIV>To: This list for discussing all aspect of MWSD</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [Squaredancing] Discussion on the National in Charlotte</DIV>
<DIV>Dresscode</DIV>
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<DIV>At 08:47 AM 7/4/2007, ljknews wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>> ></DIV>
<DIV>> > And, Nasser, why not have that hall declared to be a National Park</DIV>
<DIV>> > where Park Rangers could police the code.</DIV>
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<DIV>>Don't go all wimpy on us - in a few years there should be a surplus of</DIV>
<DIV>>used Armored Personnel Carriers back in the US. What could be more</DIV>
<DIV>>honorable than protecting the Homeland from short sleeved shirts ?</DIV>
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<DIV>Along these lines -- here's a humorous web site "My Parents Were Undercover</DIV>
<DIV>Square Dancers"</DIV>
<DIV><<A href="http://www.musaique.com/contradance/articles/stibich.html">http://www.musaique.com/contradance/articles/stibich.html</A>></DIV>
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<DIV>Ken</DIV>
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