[Info-vax] SOLVED: Re: tcpip gateway question

glen herrmannsfeldt gah at ugcs.caltech.edu
Wed Oct 7 14:35:44 EDT 2009


In comp.protocols.tcp-ip jbriggs444 <jbriggs444 at gmail.com> wrote:
< On Oct 2, 6:00?pm, glen herrmannsfeldt <g... at ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
<> Richard B. Gilbert <rgilber... at comcast.net> wrote:

<> < I'm not certain but I suspect that your problem is due to the fact that
<> < DECnet sets the Ethernet address to AA-00-04-00-FB-04. ?If you start
<> < TCP/IP first, it will get the original hardware address for the
<> < interface. ?When DECnet starts it will set the address to the DECnet
<> < node address and leave TCP/IP swinging in the breeze!

<> That should only happen until the ARP cache is updated. ?Any host
<> that tries to connect after the MAC address change will get the
<> new address from ARP. ?Most will update on the broadcast ARP reply,
<> but maybe not all.
 
< Broadcast ARP reply?  What broadcast ARP reply?

OK, that is why I posted here.
 
< ARP requests are broadcasts.
< ARP replies are conventionally sent as unicasts.

Other hosts should update their cache based on the broadcast
request, though, right?  

Many years ago I found a bug related to ARP.  An HP/UX machine
running a third party appletalk (ethertalk) package would,
it seems, sometimes ARP in SNAP encapsulated mode.  The Cisco
router would then switch to SNAP encapsulation, but the host
IP stack would not recognize them.  If I ping another host from
the HP/UX machine it would ARP for that host, and the router
would update the cache.

I wouldn't be surprised if some broadcast replies.  How many
update the cache on broadcast requests not destined for them?

-- glen



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