[Info-vax] Whither VMS?

[Paul.Raulerson]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com [mailto:info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com] On
> Behalf Of John Santos
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:43 PM
> To: info-vax at rbnsn.com
> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] Whither VMS?
> 
> In article <paul.nospam-4799A6.21263308102009 at pbook.sture.ch>,
> paul.nospam at sture.ch says...>
> > In article <7ivb7rF32o3n0U1 at mid.individual.net>,
> >  billg999 at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
> >
> > > In article <gKBLIl0YcnM+ at eisner.encompasserve.org>,
> > > 	koehler at eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:
> > > > In article <7ire14F32vm9nU2 at mid.individual.net>,
> billg999 at cs.uofs.edu (Bill
> > > > Gunshannon) writes:
> > > >>
> > > >> And once again we blame the language for the incompetence (or
> just plain
> > > >> laziness) of the programmers.
> > > >
> > > >    That's like blaiming the carpenter who loses his hand to a
> circular
> > > >    saw without a blade guard.  The saw should have had the blade
> guard.
> > >
> > > The saw wasn't made without a blade guard (at least none I ever
> used was).
> > > It is still the fault of the operator for using it improperly.
> > >
> > > When C is used properly it works just fine and doesn't have any
> more
> > > security problems than any other language. I have never written a
> > > program that was exploited thru a buffer overflow.
> > >
> >
> > Going back to my student holiday job days there were employers who
> would
> > disable safety guards to enhance productivity.
> >
> > And employees on piece rate pay who would disable safety guards
> > themselves.
> 
> Ever see the movie about Johnny Cash, and what happened to his brother?
> 
> There seem to have been no safety guards to be removed.  Just like C.
> 
> --
> John Santos
> Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
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Lordy- isn't this a bit of a stretch?  Safety guards on saws vs. coding in
C. 
Huh. To tell the truth, I would far rather have the safety monitoring on a
device
written in C by a careful programmer than in Java by a careless one
depending upon
the compiler to "get it right." 

I do use the compiler to find mistakes, but it has little to do with
ensuring the program
is written and operates correctly.  Indeed, the compiler has pretty much
nothing to do 
with that! 

-Paul