[Info-vax] Real-time new mail notification

[Michael T. Davis]

In article <99GnsbLuk0Ct at eisner.encompasserve.org>,
koehler at eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:

>In article <hbtkts$aep$1 at charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
> DAVISM at ecr6.ohio-stat

>
e.edu (Michael T. Davis) writes:
>>
>> 	At least in the case of Deliver, since it operates in batch mode,
>> depending on the load of the given queue(s), the notification could be
>> enqueued behind who-knows-how-many other jobs.  The built-in broadcast
>> mechanism of VMS Mail occurs during message delivery, not sometime
> thereafter.
>> In that sense, I would want the notification to operate in "real time" just
> as
>> a VMS Mail notification does.
>
>   VMS Mail has been described as an electronic messaging system, more
>   than an electronic mail system.  In itself, there is no store and
>   forward nor delayed transmission.  In it's original incarnation as
>   operating only locally and over DECnet, either you could send the
>   message immediatley, or not at all (I think this matches what you
>   mean by real-time in terms of performance, although in delivery
>   instead of notification).
>
>   Since support for SMPT, which is a mail protocol with store and
>   forward, as well as delayed transmission, VMS Mail interfaces to a
>   real electronic mail system, but doing store and forward and delayed
>   forwarding means not having that kind of real-time performance.

	...Unless you develop a "shim" based on a foregin mail transport to
handle the notification as the message passes through VMS Mail, before it's
forwarded.

>
>>
>> 	The end-users will not have a terminal session open to the VMS system.
>> Instead, they run a MUA (e.g. Eudora, Thunderbird, etc.) and whatever
> program
>> provides the functionality I'm hoping to find (though it sounds increasingly
>> less likely I'm going to).
>
>   But if the message is still backed up in a DELIVER queue, what good
>   does it do to tell the user that DELIVER has received it?
>

	I would almost certainly not want to use Deliver.  I though that much
was clear.

Regards,
Mike
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