[Info-vax] openvms and xterm

[chrisq]

On 5/9/24 23:25, David Goodwin wrote:
> In article <v1d7p6$38li0$1 at dont-email.me>, devzero at nospam.com says...
>>
>> On 5/4/24 07:57, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2024-05-04 at 02:11 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>> Oracle gets money that would otherwise likely go to Red Hat ...
>>>>
>>>> Interesting that they won?t offer their own ZFS next-generation
>>>> filesystem product with it, preferring to bundle btrfs instead. Vote
>>>> of confidence in your own product over rivals, much?
>>>
>>> My experience with btrfs was awful. It's fortunate I only tested it and
>>> took backups, and it kept losing data. Turned to ZFS and it has been
>>> rock solid. Ten years.
>>
>> Yes, ZFS here since the very early versions of Solaris 10. Absolutely
>> rock solid and has never lost any data here, nor had a situation
>> that was not recoverable. Why use anything else ?.
>>
>> FreeBSD was the only alternative os to offer their own clean room
>> zfs many years ago, but they moved to OpenZFS. Again, rock solid
>> and would not choose any other fs, other than for quick hacks, or
>> testing.
>>
>> Back on topic, who remembers the dec advfs  for Tru64 ?. Never
>> actually used it, but what were it's advantages / usp ?...
> 
> Late last year I had a go at building GCC 4.7.4 for Tru64 5.1B on my
> trusty AlphaServer 800 (notes here for anyone interested in doing it:
> https://www.zx.net.nz/vc/dunix/gcc.shtml)
> 
> During this process I ran out of disk and ended up having to slot
> another drive in the machine which led me to interacting with the AdvFS
> management tools. And it turns out its a pretty impressive filesystem
> for its age. Its got the whole storage pools thing that ZFS does which
> is pretty nice.
> 
> No COW or Checksumming that I can see though, but despite that it seems
> to be a more capable filesystem than whats normally been used on linux
> for the past decade or two. Its a shame HP never released their Linux
> port of it.

Older versions of gcc, 2.7.2, for example, were not too difficult to
build and have built gcc cross, even on a Sun 3. Modern
versions are more difficult, needing obscure math libraries resident,
and a whole raft of gnu infrastructure in place. Gnu is still a great
set of tools though and more than anything else, sounded the death
knell of expensive and locked down proprietary tools...

Chris