[Info-vax] HP's Partner Virtualization Program

[Arne Vajhøj]

Richard Maher wrote:
> "Arne Vajhøj" <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote in message
> news:4a78f243$0$307$14726298 at news.sunsite.dk...
>> Richard Maher wrote:
>>> Hi Jan-Erik, Alan,
>>> "Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing" <winston at SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
>>>> Virtualization was scheduled for 8.4, which was waiting for Tukwila. At
> the
>>>> Tech Forum, users were pretty clear that they wanted some kind of
> updated which
>>>> included virtualization without having to wait for Tukwila, and
> management
>>>> appeared to have heard that request.  (Then the VMS sig mailing list
> had a
>>>> surprising-to-me discussion aobut what a pain and expense qualifying
>>>> intermediate versions was, so the message got somewhat muddled, but as
> far as
>>>> I know there's an intention  to get the non-Tukwila-support pieces
> originally
>>>> slated for 8.4 out the door in some shorter timeframe.)
>>> Excellent. So there'd be absolutely *no* reason why IPsec could not be added
>>> to the kit in the intervening 4-6 months then, yes?
>>>
>>> What a marvellous opportunity to take full advantage of this God-send of a
>>> grace period!
>> I am sure they could.
> 
> I cannot conceive of a single technological or time-sensitive obstacle.
>> But they do not seem as interested in IPsec as you are.
> 
> I depends on who your "they" refers to. (And it certainly would be nice to
> have them out from under the bed or the closet for a change. Come on - come
> out and take a bow you treacherous bastards! You others all love your
> bootcamps, love-ins, and tech-update days as a way to keep "up to date" with
> what's going on, so who exactly are Arne's "they"?)
> 
> But, you see, I too have a "they". They were responsible for: -
> 1) Getting the IPsec development budget approved and management onboard
> 2) Allocating the many thousands of man hours an millions of dollars to
> bring a workable product to fruition by august 2007: -
> http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ipsec/
> 3) Scheduling the initial release for 8.3 and then falling/slipping back to
> 8.4 on the road map for *years*!
> 4) Applying for and receiving "IPV6 Ready" status for TCP/IP Services for
> VMS: -
> http://www.ipv6ready.org/phase-2_approved_list
> A status that should now be relinquished by any organization of integrity.
> 5) Understanding that *every* other OS on the planet from Linux, Windows,
> HP/UX, NSK, MVS, Android, iPhone is supporting at least one version of
> IPsec!
> 6) Understanding that HP, SUN, Microsoft, IBM, Apple have all jumped on the
> IPsec bandwagon years ago
> 7) Understanding that IPsec is an integral piece of the e-business
> infrastructure puzzle and is about as optional as running an IP stack at
> all.

All that is nice tech talk.

The important question is: how many new systems will you order when/if
IPsec is available?

If that number is high enough then "they" will listen.

Arne