[Info-vax] Want to watch the World Series?

[Richard Maher]

Hi Ian,

> See also
http://surkanstance.blogspot.com/2009/08/microsoft-bold-yet-timid-giant.html
> for a view on Microsoft's efforts with IPSEC

Web Logs from disgruntled ex-employees? Is this really the best you and your
brown-shirted goons could come up with? You really must post a link to it
from OpenVMS.org. (Certainly in keeping with recent editorial policy)

Sadly, another example of HP/*VMS* policy and MO at its finest :-(

Regards Richard Maher

PS. Why don't you post a comment asking him to update wikipedia where
someone has a chance to correct his bias? Also, you may ask him to correct
this blatant error: -

"IPSec is an old IETF standard (supported by every OS in existence),"

How wrong he is. (Or perhaps he was only discussing "living" OSes?)

PPS. I see Process Software is expanding their VMS engineering base - well
done guys and congratulations! How many HP/VMS engineers were booted out the
door again Ian? I couldn't find it on your web-site but maybe it's in the
archives of that bastion of critical IT analysis, "Pomp & Surkanstance"?
Yep, the HP/*VMS* people are really doing' well, aren't they?

Take a good bloody look at yourselves :-(

"IanMiller" <gxys at uk2.net> wrote in message
news:a452a0d9-7a04-4442-9d7e-82ceff233673 at w41g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 12, 10:19 pm, "Richard Maher" <maher... at hotspamnotmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I know you're probably sick of hearing about IPsec with TCP/IP Services
but
> time is of the essence here! I have it on good authority that it is
> currently being reviewed (yet again) and there is the tiniest window
> available for 8.4 qualification before the code is locked down. As
suspected
> it would cost a lot more to unbundle the IPsec code than to certify it, so
> the code will be shipping with 8.4 regardless, but it's up to *you*
whether
> it gets qualified and supported,
>
> I also know a lot of you are "so very tired" and the Arne "Nurse Ratched"
> Vajhøjs of this world may have zapped your will for self-determination, bu
t
> try to put your apathy behind you just one more time and vote to suspend
our
> wretched existence in this VMS asylum backwater, and to join the rest of
the
> world for just one more time! Please, please, please contact your HP/VMS
rep
> and say "I want secure IP VPNs and the industry standard e-business
> infrastructure that IPsec brings." That's it - That's all you have to do!
If
> you don't know who to e-mail (and you are a customer) then send it to me
and
> I'll forward it on. Going to the Rdb Tech Forum in Sydney? Then why not
make
> Matt Muggeridge's day by walking up and telling him that you did the right
> thing and voted for IPsec?
>
> Maybe even some of you acutes out the back, or in Rdb/Engineering, can
> manage to just raise your hand? Secure your JDBC and ODBC connections?
Want
> secure UDP as well? Want secure Tier3 without STUNNEL? Want Point A -
Point
> B transparent mutual authentication and encryption? Want to consign SFTP,
> FTPS, SSH, and SSL to the fringe? Then just stick your bloody hand up!
>
> For once let's try to be like everyone else, watch a game, sit in the sun,
> have a few beers - You can do it!
>
> Regards Richard Maher
>
> PS. Anybody got a new iPhone lately? Nice to have IPsec isn't it?


See also
http://surkanstance.blogspot.com/2009/08/microsoft-bold-yet-timid-giant.html
for a view on Microsoft's efforts with IPSEC