[Info-vax] IPSec - Dear God in heaven NO!

[Richard Maher]

Hi JF,

"JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot at vaxination.ca> wrote in message
news:00163f2a$0$23343$c3e8da3 at news.astraweb.com...
>
> Mr Maher,
>
> I implore you to stop criticising VMS engineers or ann mcquaid for the
> next few months.

You'll have to quote a bit more liberally, or at least give me some clue as
to what your posting about or replying to.

Just for the record: -

1) I am and always have been very supportive of VMS Engineering in general,
but I reserve the right to crticise when they stuff up or waste VMS licens
payer's time/money on follie.
2) I do not consider the gravy-train riders and cling-ons that gave us
BridgeWorks, WSIT, and RTR to be "VMS Engineers" (Let alone those maggots
that have fed on VMS' corpse for decades and yet have managed to add
absolutely zero value to Software, Hardware, Documentation or Support)
3) It's high time all at VMS experienced what everyone else outside of their
ivory tower, in the VMS workplace at large, has been experiencing for years.

> They are going through a rough patch right now,

How positively awful for them! What the fuck do you think those trying to
eek out a living with the VMS client-base have been doing for the last 10
years? (Whilst having to watch crap decision, after piss-poor product
investment, making their lives more difficult)

Yes indeed, "Welcome to our world!".

Why not go and tell the VMS Application Developer who's sleeping in his car
each night in some US parking lot, and looking lovingly at his gun, that his
life is a box of fluffy ducks. Then tell him, that after 30 years at the
trough, those HP/VMS guys/gals are doing it tough.

> it is
> not their fault.

So whose bloody fault is it? Hmm? As VMS customers can we at least not be
told what's the reasoning behind the IPsec removal, if not have the
incompetent wanker that made it stand up in front of us and take a bow?

>
> And considering what they are going through, I think they are doing a
> formidable job.

Now you're taking the piss! I tell you what, why don't they all get a
"formidable performance" bonus just like the AIG guys? I mean it wasn't
their fault either was it?

"Circumstances beyond their control", "It's lack of marketing that's the
problem", "We don't have enough Browsers for VMS servers", "I get all
nostalgic about DECwindows, Allinone and RSTS/E" - Bollocks!

See, unlike you JF, I believe VMS can still have a future. It doesn't need
more marketing (yet) what it needs is for those masquerading a VMS
management to stop actively destroying the installed-base! Just stop making
*any* descisions and I can assure you VMS will be better off :-(

Yes, when it comes to "management", what VMS has been subjected to, in the
last decade and a half, is a level of ineptitude and self-interest that
would make Robert Mugabe blush, and levels of misappropriation that would
make Sir Fred Goodwin give back his pension. As I've said before there is
money to be clawed back from HP/VMS, and heaps of it, BUT IT AIN"T FROM
IPsec!

1) Sack anyone involved in the approval,design,development,support of the
following products and out source support to India:-
DECForms, BridgeWorks, RTR, SOAP/Toolkit, WSIT, DCE/RPC, ONC/RPC, Posix,
Forte, DECAdmire, ACMSxp
2) Stop allocating funds to your mates pet projects and start asking "Is it
in the interests of VMS?"
3) Stop just copying what the others are doing if all you can do is deliver
poorly performing crap 2 to 10 years late
4) Are you committed to Java/VMS or not? If so, after being 10 years late,
1.5 is not good enough with 1.7 at the door. (Is this why Any Goldstein was
wasting his time on Unix semaphores? I sure hope there's at least some
reason.)
5) Are you really trying to be the most expensive L^hVAMP server on the
planet? With just some bloke and his dog supporting "M" and "P"?
6) Look at *everyone's* timesheet for the last year; how much billable time
is on it? Sack the project leaders (or cost centre managers) that are
allowing their mates to bill a few hours here/there.
7) Stop porting web-browsers to VMS!
8) Sack those that have have made a career out of creating a job for
themselves at HP/VMS. (Big savings here!)
9) Re-instate IPsec.

Or, as I said, just do nothing (except 9). VMS still is the best server OS
on the market - just stop killing it.

Regards Richard Maher