[Info-vax] That's just the way it is (Was Re: IPSec - Dear God in heaven NO!)

[Richard Maher]

Hi (again) David,

Fresh from your triumph in single-handedly saving the Health Industry and
Cerner for VMS, I am all a tingle for your sage advice.

"David J Dachtera" <djesys.no at spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:49CFE732.9CA2F5BA at spam.comcast.net...
> Richard Maher wrote:
> >
> > Hi JF,
> >
> > "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot at vaxination.ca> wrote in message
> > news:00163f2a$0$23343$c3e8da3 at news.astraweb.com...
> > >
> > > Mr Maher,
> > >
> > > I implore you to stop criticising VMS engineers or ann mcquaid for the
> > > next few months.
> >
> > You'll have to quote a bit more liberally, or at least give me some clue
as
> > to what your posting about or replying to.
>
> Um, Richard?
>
> D'ya ever here the old saying, "You'll attract more (bugs) with honey
> than with vinegar"?

Did you ever hear the old saying "Bite me"?

>
> Specifically, this kind of talk does not advance the OpenVMS cause one
> iota:

Yeah, if it wasn't for me VMS would be doing swell.

>
> Richard Maher wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> > But I personally know of several completely useless twats that continue
to
> > suckle their exorbitant salaries at the VMS license-payer teat, so it is
> > inconveivable that Ann would have similtaneously retrenched tens of
talented
> > and productive engineers?
> >
> > Quite revealing to see who's managed to dawdle in the trenches after
she's
> > blown the whistle!
>
> Put yourself in the other person's shoes.
>
> Who would YOU rather do business with?

There you've hit the nail on the head - "business". If only VMS was being
run as a *business*, and not as the personal play thing and retirement plan
by those who have done little more than cover their arses for 30 years, we
might get somewhere. Sadly, the HP ownership of VMS (like the Oracle
ownership of Rdb) prevents any form of targeted accountability. They never
break down revenue/profitability to the VMS or Rdb levels and shareholders
never get to target their anger at the specific failure of the management
involved. These are Zombie businesses, and those in charge like it just the
way it is :-(

Go on, tell me how many licenses we hav again; what are this year
projections? "But we're doing what Gartner said! It's not our fault that
what we're delivering has piss-poor performance and is 2 to 10 years late."

Look it's simple, if you're team has gotten the wooden-spoon 15 years
running then you sack the bloody manager! If Ann McQuaid isn't responsible
for making these decisions then tell me who is. Then also tell me why she
hasn't resigned in disgust, or at least sacked the numpties that are
advising her.
>
> The snake - coiled, hissing and poised for attack?
>
> ...or the snake charmer, calmly trying to coax the snake into docility?

You compare me to a snake when comfronted by the VMS den of vipers?
>
> Remember: Even I have posted such things as, "YOU GOTTA BE SHITTIN'
> ME!!!"

Wow that's crazy talk; your livin' right out there on the edge huh?
>
> In the end, it doesn't matter whether "they" are wrong or not: "THEY"
> hold the cards - it's THEIR game, and "THEY" make the rules.

Well maybe the time for honouring themselves will soon be at an end. But
imagine if just one of these rules was "Making money for VMS and preserving,
then increasing, market share"? What a concept!

It might not sit well with customers that the likes of Goodwin, Wagoner or
McQuaid receive huge retirement bonuses, but at least the managerial damage
being inflicted on the respective companies will have come to an end.
>
> That said, Multinet is a great alternative to UCX as long as you don't
> need super-high volume of transactions (the old direct vs. buffered I/O
> issue - Google this group for it).

Interesting.

>
> Take some more hydrochlorothyazide, Benecar or whatever the doctor has
> given you for your blood pressure - or Vicodin, Valium or whatever you
> can get on the nearest street corner - and learn to play nice with the
> other kiddies.

Unlike many in cov (some who strangely hav almost nothing to do with VMS
anymore) I don't come here to socialize. And in case it might have escaped
anyone's attention, let me point out that when it comes to what people think
(outside of technical VMS and IT discussion) I don't give a monkeys!
>
> My $0.02...
>
> D.J.D.

Regards Richard Maher