[Info-vax] Oracle and HP end Exadata partnership

Richard B. Gilbert rgilbert88 at comcast.net
Thu Sep 17 18:51:20 EDT 2009


Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>> Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>>>> DaveG wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 16, 7:36 pm, Arne Vajhøj <a... at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>>>>> Rich Jordan wrote:
>>>>>>> No direct VMS connection as far as I know, but its still HP.
>>>>>>> Apparently Oracle's new Exadata boxes are Sun based.
>>>>>>> http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE58E80D20090916?pageNumber=2&virt... 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oracle bought SUN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would look silly if they did not use their own
>>>>>> hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oracle is "buying" Sun.  Apparently the EU has some questions on the
>>>>> deal.
>>>>
>>>> Since Oracle and Sun are both U.S. corporations, does it matter what 
>>>> the  EU thinks?
>>>
>>> It might matter to Oracle. If EU says "you can not do business here".
>>
>> I suppose the EU could do it but it sounds like a fine way to shoot 
>> themselves in the foot.  Oracle users might have to move their data 
>> processing to some place with a less heavy handed government!
> 
> You don't think IBM, Microsoft, Sybase etc. sales people would
> jump in?
> 
>> It's very possible that such an action would violate existing treaties.
>>
>> If something like that did happen, I can see the U.S. taking 
>> retaliatory action. . . .
> 
> EU companies doing business in the US has to comply with US laws. US
> companies doing business in Europe has to comply with EU laws.
> 
> I don't think the US government would want to make changes to that.
> 
> Arne

But the root problem seems to be that EU would object to Oracle buying 
Sun Microsystems!  Both are U.S. Corporations and not subject to EU laws 
except those that apply to the manner in which they do business in EU 
jurisdiction.

Suppose *I* bought Sun Microsystems.  Do you think that the EU would 
have any say in the matter?  If so, on what basis?

I'm not saying I could afford to buy Sun but if an armored car just 
stuffed with $10,000 bills showed up and my door. . . .

Would the EU have any jurisdiction in the matter?



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