[Info-vax] AXIS2/C, gSOAP

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

On 2010-08-02 22:41, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> On 2010-08-02 22:29, Neil Rieck wrote:
>>>
>>> There are 2 types of VMS engineers in India. There are a few who have
>>> made a career of VMS. And there are the commodity drones who come and go
>>> as soon as they find a better job with better future elsewhere.
>>>
>>> The later type would much rather work on some industry buzzword like
>>> gSpot, gSoap, gThis or gThat because that puts something on their CV of
>>> value. They don't enhance their CV if they say they worked on adding a
>>> qualifier to the SET command.
>>>
>>
>> In this case, the people working on gSOAP represent HP folks from
>> Germany and New Zealand (I think the original author of gSOAP hails
>> from Holland). I tested gSOAP last week and it is "rocket fast"
>> compared to "AXIS2/Java" so kudos to John and Brett. FYI, I think the
>> "g" in gSOAP stands for "grid".
>>
>> As for you comment about "2 types of VMS engineers in India", I think
>> it sounds a little bit racist. The truth of the matter is that there
>> are "more productive" and "less productive" engineers throughout the
>> world. What you describe is just human nature.
>>
>> I stand by my previous statement about HP treating OpenVMS "like the
>> red headed step child". Only the people responsible for merging HP
>> with Compaq thought it was a good idea, HP rank-and-file did not. You
>> know this is true by the problems you encounter every time you attempt
>> to order an OpenVMS. Like it or not, HP pushed this troublesome step
>> child out-of-sight by outsourcing it to India. Maybe I wasn't paying
>> attention but I don't remember hearing any announcements about
>> outsourcing HP-UX development and support to India.
>
>  From what I remember from a TUD day (last year maybe), OpenVMS was the
> last "thing" *not* already located at HP in India. I think HP-UX,
> storage and networks was already there. So the message was that now
> (with OpenVMS in the same spot) the cooperation between OpenVMS
> development and storage/networks would be easier then before.

OK, found the PDF.
Not HP-UX maybe, but storage and networks is mentioned.

http://jescab2.dyndns.org/pub_docs/global_team.pdf


>
> So the message was that this (the move of OpenVMS dev to the
> HP site in India) was a sign of interst and investment in OpenVMS,
> not a way to hide it away.
>
>
>> So it is a done deal. The majority of OpenVMS software development and
>> support will be permanently done in India,
>
> Personaly, I could care less where it's done, as long as it *is* done.
>  From my perspective this was not any "outsourcing", just a move
> of the development of OPenVMS from one HP site to another, both
> "overseas" as far as I'm concerned.
>
>> and those people need our support (not snide remarks).
>
> Absolutely.
>