[Info-vax] Happy new Year !

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <01421939$0$20821$c3e8da3 at news.astraweb.com>,
	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot at vaxination.ca> writes:
> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> 
>> Not sure I would buy that.  IBM had PROFS and a lot of places used
>> it.  
> 
> The number of employees who had access to an IBM 3270 terminal in a
> company back in the 1980s was limited.

Maybe where you were.  Aat the places I worked (including here) all the
administrators had 3270 emulators in their PC's.  Some were coax directly
back to the concentrators (I forget what IBM called them) while others
used baluns to change the coax over to twisted pair to run over the new
network wiring and then back to coax in the wiring closet to connect to
the IBM concenttrators.  At Martin Marietta all the offices at the HQ's
had 3270's and those of us who spent most of our time remote dialed in
for access, again, using an emulator on a PC.

Like DEC, IBM went through a serious decline and at that point it
wouldn't surprise me if DECcc took the lead fore at least a little
while, but when they competed head to head, I don;t think DEC ever
had the lead over IBM. 
> 
> Just about every Digital employee had an email account, either on
> All-In-1 and/or VMS mail. It was the largest email/desktop installation
> back then.

My experience differs and I have been doing enmail since at least 1980
(not counting early Bulletin Boards which I don't consider actual email).

> 
> IBM had a number of emails (PROFS, DISOSS, and others). DISOSS was painfull.

All I ever worked with on the IBM side was PROFS (well, and BITNET :-) and
the installs at various coproations were massive considering the state of
the IT world in those days.

> 
> ALLIN-1 is just a couple years younger than VMS (started in 2002).
                                                              ^^^^
                                           I assume this is a mistake!

I was doing PROFS when the VAX was still in the 11/750 and VMS 2.0 was
still in its infancy.

bill

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