[Info-vax] Happy new Year !

[Richard B. Gilbert]

Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> In article <01421939$0$20821$c3e8da3 at news.astraweb.com>,
> 	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot at vaxination.ca> writes:
>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>
>>> Not sure I would buy that.  IBM had PROFS and a lot of places used
>>> it.  
>> The number of employees who had access to an IBM 3270 terminal in a
>> company back in the 1980s was limited.
> 
> Maybe where you were.  Aat the places I worked (including here) all the
> administrators had 3270 emulators in their PC's.  Some were coax directly
> back to the concentrators (I forget what IBM called them) while others
> used baluns to change the coax over to twisted pair to run over the new
> network wiring and then back to coax in the wiring closet to connect to
> the IBM concenttrators.  At Martin Marietta all the offices at the HQ's
> had 3270's and those of us who spent most of our time remote dialed in
> for access, again, using an emulator on a PC.
> 
> Like DEC, IBM went through a serious decline and at that point it
> wouldn't surprise me if DECcc took the lead fore at least a little
> while, but when they competed head to head, I don;t think DEC ever
> had the lead over IBM. 
>> Just about every Digital employee had an email account, either on
>> All-In-1 and/or VMS mail. It was the largest email/desktop installation
>> back then.
> 
> My experience differs and I have been doing enmail since at least 1980
> (not counting early Bulletin Boards which I don't consider actual email).
> 
>> IBM had a number of emails (PROFS, DISOSS, and others). DISOSS was painfull.
> 
> All I ever worked with on the IBM side was PROFS (well, and BITNET :-) and
> the installs at various coproations were massive considering the state of
> the IT world in those days.
> 
>> ALLIN-1 is just a couple years younger than VMS (started in 2002).
>                                                               ^^^^
>                                            I assume this is a mistake!
> 
> I was doing PROFS when the VAX was still in the 11/750 and VMS 2.0 was
> still in its infancy.
> 
> bill
> 

I think your dating is a little off.  VAX 11/750 was about late 1983 and 
I believe that VMS 2.0 was history by then.  When I came on board ca. 
March 1984, VMS was up to 3.x.  I think "x" was six or seven.