[Info-vax] Happy new Year !

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <-O2dnfFhV_LO6dbWnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d at giganews.com>,
	"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88 at comcast.net> writes:
> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> In article <01421939$0$20821$c3e8da3 at news.astraweb.com>,
>> 	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot at vaxination.ca> writes:
>>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not sure I would buy that.  IBM had PROFS and a lot of places used
>>>> it.  
>>> The number of employees who had access to an IBM 3270 terminal in a
>>> company back in the 1980s was limited.
>> 
>> Maybe where you were.  Aat the places I worked (including here) all the
>> administrators had 3270 emulators in their PC's.  Some were coax directly
>> back to the concentrators (I forget what IBM called them) while others
>> used baluns to change the coax over to twisted pair to run over the new
>> network wiring and then back to coax in the wiring closet to connect to
>> the IBM concenttrators.  At Martin Marietta all the offices at the HQ's
>> had 3270's and those of us who spent most of our time remote dialed in
>> for access, again, using an emulator on a PC.
>> 
>> Like DEC, IBM went through a serious decline and at that point it
>> wouldn't surprise me if DECcc took the lead fore at least a little
>> while, but when they competed head to head, I don;t think DEC ever
>> had the lead over IBM. 
>>> Just about every Digital employee had an email account, either on
>>> All-In-1 and/or VMS mail. It was the largest email/desktop installation
>>> back then.
>> 
>> My experience differs and I have been doing enmail since at least 1980
>> (not counting early Bulletin Boards which I don't consider actual email).
>> 
>>> IBM had a number of emails (PROFS, DISOSS, and others). DISOSS was painfull.
>> 
>> All I ever worked with on the IBM side was PROFS (well, and BITNET :-) and
>> the installs at various coproations were massive considering the state of
>> the IT world in those days.
>> 
>>> ALLIN-1 is just a couple years younger than VMS (started in 2002).
>>                                                               ^^^^
>>                                            I assume this is a mistake!
>> 
>> I was doing PROFS when the VAX was still in the 11/750 and VMS 2.0 was
>> still in its infancy.
>> 
>> bill
>> 
> 
> I think your dating is a little off.  VAX 11/750 was about late 1983 and 
> I believe that VMS 2.0 was history by then.  When I came on board ca. 
> March 1984, VMS was up to 3.x.  I think "x" was six or seven.

http://www.compaq.com/alphaserver/vax/timeline

Both are listed as 1980.  And that coincides with my memory of my
first contact with a VAX running VMS at USMA.

bill

-- 
Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
billg999 at cs.scranton.edu |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton   |
Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>