[Info-vax] OT: Arun Kishan

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <4b4bee9d$0$272$14726298 at news.sunsite.dk>,
	Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
> On 11-01-2010 07:47, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>> In article<hiev8l$oq9$01$1 at news.t-online.com>, Michael Kraemer<M.Kraemer at gsi.de>  writes:
>>> Richard B. Gilbert schrieb:
>>>> I was doing Unix, Windows and VMS at my last job.  The Unix was running
>>>> on X86 hardware and supporting a typesetting application.  The Windows
>>>> part was removing virii and worms and patching Windows to close some of
>>>> the "holes" being exploited by said virii and worms.  The VMS support
>>>> occupied very little of my time.
>>>
>>> In my experience the amount of necessary daily support is
>>> roughly proportional to the number of users,
>>> especially on the desktop.
>>
>> In my experience, it's been:
>>
>> Support person = ceil (1/(number of users on system))
>>
>> On VMS and unix, number of users on system is typically>1.  Regardless,
>> 1 support person for VMS and unix.  However, with WEENDOZE, it's 1 user
>> per box...
>>
>> Support person = ceil (1/(1 WEENDOZE user)) * WEENDOZE boxes.
>>
>> Judging by the size of some of the IT support groups I have encountered,
>> the math may be a bit off with an additional fudge factor...
>>
>> Support person = ceil (1/(1 WEENDOZE user)) * (WEENDOZE boxes + fudge)
>>
>> Fudge is usually for the support of the WEENDOZE server to which these
>> single user WEENDOZE boxes connect.
>>
>> It's like buying a car with a full time mechanic.
> 
> But for some reasons the CIO's have not figured that out yet !?!?

So, when are we finally going to put this myth to rest (like the Cutler
is god myth)?

This place has always had a nearly one-to-one sysadminr-to-VMS
ratio while I have repeatedly stated that I do more than a dozen
Unix servers almost a dozen Windows servers and lots of clients
(including student labs) and, at one time, several VMS systems
and even some PDP-11's running vasrious OSes, with a one man shop.

And, lets look at other sites I know.  When i was mobed I visited
sites with thousands of users scattered over thousands of square
miles being supported by 2-3 sys admins.  I just interviewed with
a place that has over 20 Windows servers and around 10,000 users
with a total support staff of 6 people for not only the Windows
stuff, but for everything including the network.

It really is time to get a grip on reality or a lot of former VMS
workers are going to need to learn how to say "Do you want fries
with that?" for their next job.

bill

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