[Info-vax] The true believers

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In article <ibmskf$c7q$2 at online.de>, helbig at astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---undress to reply) writes:
>In article <ibb5ae$a1a$1 at speranza.aioe.org>, "Richard Maher"
><maher_rj at hotspamnotmail.com> writes: 
>
>> "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main at hp.com> wrote in message 
>> news:mailman.34.1289187239.15866.info-vax_rbnsn.com at rbnsn.com...
>> wrote:- lots of good stuff as usual
>> 
>> Tell 'em all to bugger off Kerry! If they had half your ticker and 
>> commitment VMS would be in a much better place today.
>> 
>> Not one of them works in a place that doesn't routinely apply Windows and 
>> Linux patches on a fix-on-fail suck-it-and-see approach and the "quality" of 
>> VMS of late has as much to do with the self-serving filth HP/VMS kept as it 
>> does with those that were cut.
>
>While I haven't (yet) contributed to this thread, I claim that it is 
>simply not true that all critics of Mr Main fit the above description.
>
>It is possible to stand behind something in principle, based on its 
>past legacy, its future promise or its current strengths.  However, 
>this should not make one blind to real problems.  Reminds me of the 
>early space programme---an ambitious undertaking, comparable with VMS as 
>far as total ingenuity involved.  However, early test pilots were often 
>too gung-ho to point out real problems.

Or too dead!  At least, in the case of VMS, when it crashes and burns,
there are tools to help diagnose why.  I'm still trying to figure out
how to get those features of post-mortem analysis from unix, linux or
OS X.

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All your spirit rack abuses, come to haunt you back by day.
All your Byzantine excuses, given time, given you away.