[Info-vax] Not all HP jobs have gone to India!

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

On 2010-11-14 12:20, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2010-11-13 15:20, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:

>>
>> I love my Sprint EVDO. I traveled 2 summers ago across Pennsylvania (a
>> 400 mile trek from my door) through 6 mountain tunnels averaging 1 mile
>> and listening to 128K streaming radio and I never missed a beat. That
>> I get for $60/month! Worth it for the convenience of ubiquitous access.
>
> Do you think that's impressive? I'm used to have about 3 Mb/s on my mobile
> phone. (Switzerland is really depressing.) And access just anywhere I go,
> not just following highways.
>

I currently pay aprox 230 SEK (aprox $32 USD) /month for my mobile
broadband modem with no-limit traffic @ 7.2 Mb/s.

My original 3 year agreement just finished and just the other day
my ISP called and wanted me to sign a new 3 year agreement with:
- a new upgraded USB dongle.
- 14 Mb/s instead of 7 Mb/s.
- A fixed cost of 180 SEK (aprox $25 USD) /month.
- A laptop (such as a Toshiba C650, 320GB/4GB) included.

The mobile broadband is just a backup to my fixed DSL lines,
but I'm looking for a new laptop anyway (need a separate numeric
kaypad for easier EDT use), so why not take this one and a cheaper
agreement at the same time ?

The catch is that I have to use that ISP the next 3 years,
which I'd probably do anyway...

Jan-Erik.




>> Most places here in the US now have free internet access (even the cable
>> cos have put up wireless access and, if you have an account, you get the
>> wireless access). When traveling Europe, I have to pay about $24/day to
>> have internet access. That's a deal??? NOT! $24/day * 30days/month is
>> $720/month... that my good man is excessive!
>
> Well, you should inform yourself a bit more. I definitely could not get
> free internet access in most places in the US. Not even in San Fransisco,
> where I spent two weeks. The Hotel had internet access, but it was so bad
> and slow it was a joke, not working a lot of the time. And I had the Bay
> Bridge outside my window.
>
> Yes, roaming with cell phones is expensive, and you get into a big problem
> in Europe there, since each country have their own operators, and you can't
> travel far before you get to another country. So, you should do some
> research on how to get your costs down if you are going to use your phone
> to surf.
> But in most countries you have WiFi access as well, and some of those are
> free, while some can be accessed if you have a iPass, which brings cost down.
>
> Going to the US is bad though, as they have created this wonderful implied
> monopoly by using different incompatible frequencies and technologies
> between all major carriers. So with my phone I can call through AT&T or
> T-mobile, since they use GSM, but I can forget Sprint which are stupid
> enough to run a totally different system.
> But if I then want to surf, ST&T and T-mobile use different frequencies,
> and manufacturers can't make phones that talk on both of those frequencies,
> with AT&T appearantly being the big headache, so people from just about
> anywhere in the world outside of the US have handsets that can only talk
> with all operators outside the US, and only T-mobile in the US.
> And I won't even start talking about what the costs are...
>
> Yeah, the US really rocks! It's not even a question of costs for foreigners
> coming to the US, it is basically a scenario of "you'll be lucky if it
> works at all".
>
> And people in the US basically don't get the concept of "operator unlocked
> phone", because it makes no sense. Since each phone will only work on one
> operators network anyway. Talk about locking people in. Competition and
> open market? I think not.
>
> In just about any country in Europe, youll find atleast two, maybe four or
> five different operators running, using the same frequencies and
> technology. So you better compete with something that actually give your
> customers something more, or else you're out of the market.
>
> Sorry. I should stop my rant now. But really, the US is really not cutting
> the edge here. And they need to do something about it.
> Read through the full report that Arne posted. It will be an eye opener for
> you. And it was written by an american institute, so it's an evaluation
> done by yourself on the problems you have.
>
>>> Don't just blindly buy the "US is best always". Do some fact finding. It
>>> might help you in the long run...
>>
>> And I didn't say that. I merely pointed out that JF's perpetuation that
>> US stands for Ultimate Satan is pure hatred. He's complained to me on
>> both the phone and private email about the fights he's having with the
>> Canadian Telecom business. When you get your head out of your ass and
>> your ass out of .SE, you might see the world differently than what has
>> been portrayed on your "squak box". Now, I need to go back to clean-
>> ing my 2.5 guns per family member, thumping my bible and trying to get
>> the rusted ol' pickup truck and front lawn ornament started, and break
>> apart some old shipping pallets so that I can build a fire to cook up
>> the evening victuals I catch in the squirrel traps today.
>
> :-)
> I didn't know that JF perpetuated that the US was the Ultimate... I have
> several other candidates for that one, which I think qualify much better
> than the US. The US is a really nice place, but this is an area where your
> non-regulation and corporation dictated politics have hurt you a lot, and
> continue to do so.
>
> No matter how many guns you wave, the US telco and ISP business will not
> improve. They will however be very happy if you continue to think that all
> is dandy.
>
> Johnny
>