[Info-vax] Poulson info from Dave Cantor
glen herrmannsfeldt
gah at ugcs.caltech.edu
Thu Nov 18 13:22:39 EST 2010
John Reagan <johnrreagan at earthlink.net> wrote:
(snip)
> They are not MY compilers. There are email addresses in the PPT slides
> that Tim posted. Ask them.
>> The author writes: "Itanium relies on compilers to aggressively
>> schedule instructions for parallel execution into bundles."
>> What does "...aggressivively schedule..." mean in terms of compiler
>> design ?
I would ask in comp.compilers. It is moderated, but that is where
the people that really know compilers are.
> To get good execution on Itanium, a compiler needs to analyze the code to
> figure out which things can be done in parallel or not. It is then upto the
> compiler to organize those in bundles according to the bundle type (which
> only provides certain permutations).
> I suspect that code that runs today will run just fine in the future, but
> assumes that code that "runs" today isn't technically illegal. Remember the
> situation with certain operations inside Alpha load-locked/store-conditional
> sequences? They "worked" in early Alphas, but newer Alphas caught them. We
> fixed the compilers but there was the worry that old .OBJs and .EXEs still
> are out there. Thats where the CHECK_SRM tool (or whatever its name is)
> came from. It lets you scan existing .EXEs to see if they have the bad
> seqeunces.
That tends to be a problem with RISC, and even worse with VLIW.
Note that IBM's z/OS running on z/Architecture machines currently
in production will run object and executables written over 40 years
ago for OS/360 on S/360 hardware. There are incompatible changes
in privileged instructions, but problem state code runs just fine.
> If what the description says is true in that the chip can do more at once, a
> compiler that 'gave up' after finding just a few parallel operations would
> want to try harder to use the new additional resources.
-- glen
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