[Info-vax] Copying VMS SaveSet Under Windows

H Vlems hvlems at freenet.de
Wed Nov 24 04:26:29 EST 2010


On 23 nov, 19:29, Wilm Boerhout <wboerhout-deletet... at gmail.com>
wrote:
> H Vlems mentioned  on 23-11-2010 18:36:
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> > On Nov 22, 8:50 pm, Wilm Boerhout<wboerhout-deletet... at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> JF Mezei mentioned  on 22-11-2010 20:30:
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> >>>>> The issue was to export datasets from MVS on 3480 cartridges,
> >>>>> to be read seamlessly (i.e. w/o intermediate storage or conversion)
> >>>>> on VAXen.
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> >>> Back in the early 1990s, a bank would generate a SWIFT transaction tape
> >>> on their mainframe, and it would be read by a VAX. Every day. Worked.
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> >>> When this was upgraded to have the SNA gateway (to eliminate the tape
> >>> handling), the SNA software supplied by DEC for the mainframe came on a
> >>> tape produced by DEC and the IBM mainframe was able to read it.
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> >>> This was back in the 9 track tape era.
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> >> I did a lot of SNA Gateway installs back then, and it certainly did not
> >> involve any software to be installed or tapes to be read on the
> >> mainframe. The SNA Gateway did make the software installed on the VAX
> >> (3270, LU6.2, PrE, RJE) look like any standard SNA-capable equipment. On
> >> the mainframe side, you just had to parametrize some LUs so they could
> >> talk to the (VMS software) peripherals. That's emulation for ya!
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> >> --
> >> Wilm Boerhout         |
> >> Zwolle,               |   'These are the times that try men's souls'
> >> The Netherlands       |   (Thomas Paine, The Crisis)
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> > Wilm. did you install a channel attached gateway at Fuji in Tilburg
> > around 1990?
> > Hans
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> Around that that time, it would have been either me, or my distinguished
> colleague Michiel Willemsen. We were the SNA gang back then. It could
> well have been me...
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> Wilm Boerhout         |
> Zwolle,               |   'These are the times that try men's souls'
> The Netherlands       |   (Thomas Paine, The Crisis)- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
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I can't remember a name. We did the physical installtion of the
gateway ourselves.
The DEC engineer was truely disappointed because he didn't get the
chance to install
channel attached gateways...
Years later I learned that the IBM system had factory installed fast
ethernet ports inside.
The IP product for VSE wasn't expensive and allowed filetransfers via
ftp to the filesystem of the mainframe.
The SNA gateway facility was batch oriented and thus always needed the
attention of IBM system management
to write the appropriate RJE jobs.
Hans



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