[Info-vax] HP stopping VMS paper documentation ?

AEF spamsink2001 at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 1 01:50:22 EST 2011


On Nov 30, 7:12 pm, Johnny Billquist <b... at softjar.se> wrote:
> On 2011-11-30 20.24, AEF wrote:
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> > On Nov 30, 11:35 am, Johnny Billquist<b... at softjar.se>  wrote:
> >> On 2011-11-30 06.30, AEF wrote:
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> >>> On Nov 29, 6:52 pm, Fritz Wuehler
> >>> <fr... at spamexpire-201111.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>    wrote:
> >>>>>>> The U.S. is not bankrupt. It is still paying its bills, and can borrow
> >>>>>>> at near zero percent interest rates. That is not bankrupt.
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> >>>> It's bankrupt, morally and financially. But they make the laws and twist
> >>>> them and enforce them (or not, depending on if it is or isn't to their
> >>>> benefit) and they print the money, they don't have to admit it when they're
> >>>> bankrupt.
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> >>> Can a bankrupt entity borrow money at near-zero percent interest?
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> >> Google for "US BONDS INTEREST RATES".
> >> It's nowhere near zero percent. Where did you get that idea?
> >> Why would anyone want to loan out money without getting any interest?
> >> That sounds like a loosing proposition.
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> >>          Johnny
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> >http://www.bankrate.com/rates/interest-rates/prime-rate.aspx
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> > The Fed funds rate is 0.25%. That's about as low as it can go. I'd
> > call that near-zero. If you don't like that, how about "as low as it's
> > ever been". This is not a sign of bankruptcy!
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> > If you consider this to be bankruptcy, then every entity on the planet
> > is bankrupt.
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> You do understand that this is not the rate the US government pays when
> it loans, right?

You missed the point. I am simply saying your claim that the US is
bankrupt is wrong. And if you insist that it's right, then every
entity on the planet is bankrupt.

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> Once again. google for "US BONDS", which is what the US government uses
> to loan money, and see what rates the US pays. What you, as a domestic
> person pay in interest when taking a loan inside the country have almost
> no bearing on the rates the government itself have to pay when loaning
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> The same is probably true in Greece. People with house loans inside
> Greece is probably not paying the same rates as Greece itself have to
> right now. At the moment, Greek bonds for 10 years sits at around 6%.
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> US EE bonds (as an example) goes over 20 years, at which time the US
> guarantees that you'll get double your money back. (You figure out what
> the interest per year is for that, but it's definitely not zero, or near
> zero.)
> US I series bonds currently sit at 3.06%.

And this indicates bankruptcy? How?

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> You seem to exhibit a rather limited understanding of global economics,
> but you make plenty of bold claims...
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>         Johnny

You missed my point. You said the US is bankrupt. How? It pays its
bills and can borrow money at the lowest rates in history.

AEF



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