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On Dec 8, 7:29 pm, Fritz Wuehler
<fr... at spamexpire-201112.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
> > In article <4edf3847$0$2098$c3e8da3$a9097... at news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spam... at vaxination.ca> writes:
>
> > > A government running puplic transit or national railways or the post
> > > office is not really socialism because it is a basic service like roads
> > > and water which are expected to be provided by government and which do
> > > not interest private enterprise.
>
> Well go and read the Constitution. The federal government has very specific
> authority ("enumerated powers"). Any thing else is resevered to the people
> or the States.

At the beginning of Article I., section 8.:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties,
Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common
Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties,
Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Well, things depend on how you define "general Welfare".

Also,

>From http://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_q4.html

Q4. "I was looking for what the Congress is prohibited from doing."

The Constitution doesn't so much say what they can't do as it does
what they can. If you think about it, this restricts the Congress a
lot more than if it spelled out what it is prohibited from doing. For
info, see Article 1, Section 8; this is a list known as the
"enumerated powers." However, the Commerce and Elastic clauses of that
Section have ended up providing Congress with some relatively wide
latitude in its application of power.

That having been said, Article 1, Section 9 does spell out some very
specific things the Congress is prohibited from doing.

> It turns out "postal roads" *are* within the purview. Public
> transit is not. When the federal government regulates (our definition, not
> the Constitution's) anything they weren't chartered to regulate, they start
> down the slippery slope of socialism. Welcome to today.

Must be a pretty shallow slope.

Where are all the lawsuits about these "unconstitutional regulations"?

As far as public transit operated by the federal government, I know
only of Amtrak. And that is hardly a socialist threat. It is, however,
a cause of delays of NJ Transit trains, as Amtrak owns some of the
tracks NJ Transit runs on.

>
> >    How about a government running a national freight rail line at a
> >    profit?
>
> Unconstitutional. And socialist.

AEF