[Info-vax] Decomissioning VMS... a sad day!
Arne Vajhøj
arne at vajhoej.dk
Wed Feb 2 21:48:40 EST 2011
On 02-02-2011 16:45, Ken Fairfield wrote:
> On Jan 31, 11:52 pm, Michael Kraemer<M.Krae... at gsi.de> wrote:
>> Mr. Mike schrieb:
>>> We are moving our Cerner Application to a Remote
>>> Hosted UNIX solution.
>>
>> Is the emphasis on "Remote Hosted" or on "UNIX"?
>
> Probably on RHO (Remote Hosting Option in Cerner-speak).
>
> Cerner announced EOL of VMS some 2 yrs ago, IIRC.
> Current releases of the application (Millennium) run
> only on AIX, HP-UX and Linux.
>
> My organization moved to RHO in February of last year
> running on an older release with VMS continuing as the
> application tier and "unix" as the database tier (while
> locally hosted, both were on our same VMS cluster).
> We were a little surprised that the DB went up on Linux
> instead of HP-UX, but since Oracle's preferred platform
> is Linux (or at least was at that time), it didn't bother us
> too much.
>
> Right now we're in the midst of an application upgrade
> which does involve moving to all unix. We had expected
> that would be HP-UX because that was what was stated
> during our RHO negotiations. Instead, we were very,
> very surprised to find we're coming up on RHEL running
> on Xeon blades!
>
> Now one of the reasons an organization decides on
> an RHO solution is that we were facing replacing
> expensive hardware (GS1208's& EVA6000) with
> other expensive hardware (IA64 Superdomes or
> similar and newer/larger storage). That's very
> difficult for a non-profit health care oraganization.
> Under RHO, Cerner bears those costs.
>
> But truly, if we'd known that the upgrade would
> be to commodity x86-64 hardware and a (nearly)
> free O/S, I think we would have done better to
> keep it in-house.
>
> I don't think Cerner have been very public about
> their support of Linux. Their RHO people have
> told us they'd had (unspecified) problems with
> HP-UX and weren't very happy with it; thus the
> move to Linux. My own opinion is that cost is
> the biggest driver for them.
Linux is real hard on the commercial Unixes.
I think you should be glad they changed now.
Otherwise you may have had to switch from HP-UX
to Linux in a few years anyway.
Going now saves an upgrade later.
Arne
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