[Info-vax] Powerterm version 9.2.0

[seasoned_geek]

On Feb 3, 10:43 am, VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article <iieipk$6v... at news.albasani.net>, Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderh... at telia.com> writes:
> >VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote 2011-02-03 16:00:
> >> In article<c3cc09fd-6e6e-4e44-815f-982d9fdda... at r16g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, Hans Vlems<hvl... at freenet.de>  writes:
> >>> On 3 feb, 13:06, VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> >>>> In article<iidu9e$8e... at news.albasani.net>, Jan-Erik Soderholm<jan-erik=
> >>> ..soderh... at telia.com>  writes:
> >>>>> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote 2011-02-03 01:31:
> >>>>>> In article<iicqsr$rl... at news.albasani.net>, Jan-Erik Soderholm<jan-eri=
> >>> k.soderh... at telia.com>  =A0writes:
> >>>>>>> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote 2011-02-03 00:45:
> >>>>>>>> How can I get a copy of this for testing purposes. =A0A customer is =
> >>> using
> >>>>>>>> this terminal emulator and insists that another piece of software ca=
> >>> uses
> >>>>>>>> issue when it's used. =A0The customer is now running on Itanium with=
> >>> this
> >>>>>>>> software. =A0Previously, they used it and had no problems on their A=
> >>> lpha.
> >>>>>>>> I'm thinking it's a process quota issue and not anything to do with =
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>> software or the terminal emulator; however, this adamant customer kn=
> >>> ows
> >>>>>>>> that it is the software causing their issue. ;)
>
> >>>>>>> There seem to be evaluation downloads available.
> >>>>>>> It it something with the V 9.2.0 not beeing "latest" ?
>
> >>>>>> Couldn't find anything on HP site.
>
> >>>>> Why at HP ???
>
> >>>>> I simply entered "powerterm" in Google and it gave me
> >>>>> Ericom as the first hit.
>
> >>>> Because another client told me it was part of Pathworks. =A0I was trying =
> >>> to
> >>>> find a Pathworks or AdvancedServer reference on HP's site... nothing.
>
> >>>> Now, as soon as this other customer can clarify which Powerterm package
> >>>> (of the version they cited) they are running, I'll try to get it. =A0Then=
> >>> ,
> >>>> its off to find someone with WEENDOZE to install it on. =A0I wonder if my
> >>>> rubber gloves to keep from touching WEENDOZE are tax deductible! :)
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker =A0 =A0VAXman(at)TMESIS(=
> >>> dot)ORG
>
> >>>> All your spirit rack abuses, come to haunt you back by day.
> >>>> All your Byzantine excuses, given time, given you away.- Tekst uit oorspr=
> >>> onkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>
> >>>> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>
> >>> Ericom PowerTerm version 5 (IIRC) was part of Pathworks. Possibly a
> >>> marketing trick to lure customers.
> >>> I've always had issues with Powerterm, modifying terminal attributes
> >>> with SET TERM/PAGE and SET TERM/WIDTH also changed the screen size
> >>> unfortunately to a size that led to line wrapping, line truncation or
> >>> a wrong number of lines. Luckily Reflection offered an alternative, or
> >>> DEC's own VT320 emulator.
> >>> Today I wouldn't hesitate to use PuTTY, even in a commercial
> >>> organization.
>
> >> I have no problems at all with xterm or DECterm on Linux.  This is at a
> >> customer site that's using WEENDOZE -- poor hapless sods -- and running
> >> this Powerterm for terminal emulation.
>
> >> There is no WEENDOZE here.  Never had it; never will.  I have never had
> >> a need that couldn't be realized on a Mac or Linux or VMS systems.  Why
> >> do people insist on tormenting themselves with WEENDOZE?
>
> >I guess that the customer would be best helped by finding a
> >decent consultant instead of you. One that understands the
> >IT market at large. You realy sounds plain dumb sometimes.
>
> EXCUSE ME!  I didn't tell this customer to use a terminal emulator!  The
> product calls the same SMG routines on OpenVMS Itanium and Alpha, and it
> produces the same output on all of the terminals and emulators I have in
> use.  Someone else in this thread reported that they dumped Powerterm in
> favor of another emulator because of issues with it.  But you failed to
> read that, eh?  Back a few years, a somewhat similar situation occurred
> at one of the major pharmas.  They were running Reflections.  Turned out
> to be that they set terminal device type to VT400 in their LOGIN.COM and
> SMG produced an escape sequence that Reflections did not handle properly.
> I suppose that if I had a WEENDOZE box here that would have fixed it???
> I've not gotten all the details from this customer yet.  There's been a
> day or more turnaround in the question and answer phase but I'll bet it
> is a very similar situation.  So, since you're such a better and decent
> consultant because you use WEENDOZE, why don't you save me all this time
> and headache and tell me what it is?
>
> I work on VMS, Mac and Linux.  This product in question works with them
> too.  It's only the WEENDOZE factor that is the issue here.  Personally,
> I asked where to get my hands on this Powerterm thing should push come
> to shove.  All I get is WEENDOZE shoved up my ass by you and Gunshannon.
> WTF?  You two can be such assholes.
>
> Sometimes, I need a killfile; sometimes, I just need to kill.  
>
> --
> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker    VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG
>
> All your spirit rack abuses, come to haunt you back by day.
> All your Byzantine excuses, given time, given you away.

Well, with teacher tenure being eliminated at the college level and
all teachers being paid based upon performance...one of them is
looking at end of career which appears to make them even more
irritable.

PowerTerm has _always_ been buggy.  Even that "free" version that came
with pathworks had some significant issues.

Rather than try and find a version of it to test with, I would ask
your client to install a freely available Putty version and see if
they can duplicate the error.  If they can, then you have a problem on
the Titanic.