[Info-vax] SSH

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <ijr9gp$7f9$1 at online.de>,
	helbig at astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---undress to reply) writes:
> In article <8scmptFc82U3 at mid.individual.net>, billg999 at cs.uofs.edu (Bill
> Gunshannon) writes: 
> 
>> > In article <00AAB465.16D9AA14 at SendSpamHere.ORG>, VAXman- 
>> > @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: 
>> > 
>> >> You can easily change the port with:
>> >> 
>> >> $ ssh -p ####
>> >> $ sftp -oPort=####>
>> >> $ scp -P ####
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Don't you just love that unix command line uniformity? ;)
>> 
>> Don't you just love it when people who haven't a clue about unix think
>> some third party program is actually part of the OS.
> 
> Is there an official definition of what is part of the OS in unix and
> what is not?  

Good question.  I would guess every distribution has different things they
consider their responsibility.

>               Certainly I've heard many people complain that in VMS,
> TCPIP is not "part of the OS".  

Is it?  If I install Multinet is it part of VMS?

>                                 The "bag of tools" philosophy is
> certainly part of unix.  In any case, the syntax is unix-style, not
> VMS-style. 

As it should be being as it is not VMS.

> 
>> > "When your unix sysadmin mentions security, he's talking about his job."
>>  
>> Unix sysadmins have no need to worry about job security they have lots
>> of positions to choose from.  
> 
> Perhaps because one needs people who remember all the cryptic commands.

Why would (what you consider) "cryptic" commands result in more positions
to choose from?  I think there is another reason for it.  :-)  Oh, and
most real unix sysadmins don't find the commands cryptic at all.  In the
eye of the beholder and all that.

bill
 

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