[Info-vax] to upgrade or not to upgrade

[Hans Vlems]

On 20 mei, 21:24, Ken Fairfield <ken.fairfi... at gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 11:24 am, pe... at langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER)
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> > In article <4d5c4850-3b29-4b27-baae-60d55f4f2... at z7g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, Ken Fairfield <ken.fairfi... at gmail.com> writes:
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> > >On May 20, 2:29=A0am, pe... at langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER) wrote:
> > >> In article <ir3nr7$ta... at online.de>, hel... at astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---undress to reply) writes:
> > >> >It might be the last hobbyist upgrade. :-(
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> > >> Don't think so
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> > >Why not?  Do you have some inside information?
> > >(You don't have to spill it here if it's a "if I told you,
> > >I'd have to kill you" deal... :-)
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> > Because I'm a hobbyist, too. And I'm on V8.4
> > V8.4 was released last summer...
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> > And I still don't think (but of course, don't know), that VMS hobbyist
> > licenses will go away before next vms version, but that is not the point.
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> > >> Latest V8.4 ECOs are from May-2011
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> > >Available only to those with a support contract,
> > >and currently there's no path to a support contract
> > >for hobbyists.
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> > Yes, but I'm sure, you know one with a support contract...
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> Actually, no, I don't.  My company ended its VMS support
> contracts last Fall.
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> And personally, I wouldn't want to put anyone in legal
> jeopardy by asking them to send ECOs to me in e-mail
> or by putting them up for ftp, especially in light of HP's
> current stance on the issue.
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> > >I'm with Phillip on this one.  I have media for V8.4,
> > >but no access to ECOs.  I'll stay with V8.3 until
> > >or unless something changes... :-(
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> > Why? Vanilla V8.3 is as worse as vanilla V8.4. And you now don't have access
> > to V8.3 (or V7.3-2) ECOs at HPQ either. And you know how to get V8.4 ECOs...
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> > Are you assuming, that V8.3 is better because HPQ obviously no longer
> > provides frequent V8.3 ECOs?
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> My V8.3 was current on patches up through last
> December or so.  That gives me some confidence
> in it.
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> I've "inherited" the V8.4 O/S kit, so I could upgrade,
> but there is a required MUP no longer available to me
> (I didn't jump to grab ECOs before access was shut off
> to me), and there vanilla V8.4 bugs that have been posted
> here that I'd rather not have to deal with, one in particular
> involved that SSH, IIRC.
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> I'll stick with a fully patched V8.3 for now...
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>     -Ken- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
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Yes, I agree with that. Since there's no access to patches any more
and given the
surprises in V8.4 I decided to stick to V8.3 on Alpha just like my
VAXes are stuck on V7.3.
Hans