[Info-vax] VMS 5.0

[Bob Eager]

On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 01:46:55 +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:

> On 2011-11-09 00.34, Bob Eager wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:08:39 +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>
>>> On 2011-11-08 22.11, John Wallace wrote:
>>>> On Nov 8, 7:42 pm, Johnny Billquist<b... at softjar.se>   wrote:
>>>>> On 2011-11-08 15.50, Bob Koehler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> In
>>>>>> article<e26cf339-adbf-48b1-
>> aaf0-8bf7e6bce... at i10g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>> abrsvc<dansabrservi... at yahoo.com>     writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The more likely contents are the standanlone backup kit.  IIRC,
>>>>>>> the actual VMS software was distributed on magtape,TK50 and
>>>>>>> removeable disk only.
>>>>>
>>>>>>       Some VMS update kits were distributed on TU58.
>>>>>
>>>>>>       One of the 3.x update kits was on several TU58, at the time
>>>>>>       the only option for 11/750 owners.  (I think it was on 8"
>>>>>>       floppies for 11/780).  At the time only full installs shipped
>>>>>>       on 9-track.
>>>>>
>>>>>>       It took so long to ingest from TU58 and DEC got so many
>>>>>>       complaints that DEC decided, and loudly declared at the next
>>>>>>       DECUS symposium, that in the future _all_ kits would be
>>>>>>       available on 9-track.
>>>>>
>>>>>>       Then CD became the standard media for Alpha, and available
>>>>>>       for VAX, so we immediately ordered a Qbus CD reader for our
>>>>>>       MV II.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't even imagine how many TU58 it would take for a full VMS
>>>>> distribution. About 100 tapes maybe? Considering that the standalone
>>>>> backup alone is 5 RX01 floppies, and the capacity of the TU58 is
>>>>> similar, the number of disks/tapes even for some update kit quickly
>>>>> becomes ridiculous as far as the number of media is concerned.
>>>>>
>>>>>           Johnny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Speaking of ridiculous, nobody wants to mention MicroVMS on RX50s?
>>>> Fair enough.
>>>
>>> I actually installed that. I seem to remember it was 23 RX50. Took
>>> some serious time...
>>
>> We had a couple of 8200s, and ISTR that by that time it was about 40
>> RX50 (but might have been 80!). I know it was available. Luckily they
>> were clustered with an 8800...
> 
> But you didn't run MicroVMS on an 8200...? I installed it on a MicroVAX
> II in 1986, at the English Embassy in Stockholm. That was one of the
> weirder things I've done. I worked at DEC at the time.

No, it was VMS 4.7. So a lot more disks required!

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