[Info-vax] VMS 5.0

[Hans Vlems]

On Nov 9, 1:46 am, Johnny Billquist <b... at softjar.se> wrote:
> On 2011-11-09 00.34, Bob Eager wrote:
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> > On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:08:39 +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote:
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> >> On 2011-11-08 22.11, John Wallace wrote:
> >>> On Nov 8, 7:42 pm, Johnny Billquist<b... at softjar.se>   wrote:
> >>>> On 2011-11-08 15.50, Bob Koehler wrote:
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> >>>>> In
> >>>>> article<e26cf339-adbf-48b1-
> > aaf0-8bf7e6bce... at i10g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>,
> >>>>> abrsvc<dansabrservi... at yahoo.com>     writes:
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> >>>>>> The more likely contents are the standanlone backup kit.  IIRC, the
> >>>>>> actual VMS software was distributed on magtape,TK50 and removeable
> >>>>>> disk only.
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> >>>>>       Some VMS update kits were distributed on TU58.
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> >>>>>       One of the 3.x update kits was on several TU58, at the time the
> >>>>>       only option for 11/750 owners.  (I think it was on 8" floppies
> >>>>>       for 11/780).  At the time only full installs shipped on 9-track.
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> >>>>>       It took so long to ingest from TU58 and DEC got so many
> >>>>>       complaints that DEC decided, and loudly declared at the next
> >>>>>       DECUS symposium, that in the future _all_ kits would be
> >>>>>       available on 9-track.
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> >>>>>       Then CD became the standard media for Alpha, and available for
> >>>>>       VAX, so we immediately ordered a Qbus CD reader for our MV II.
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> >>>> I can't even imagine how many TU58 it would take for a full VMS
> >>>> distribution. About 100 tapes maybe? Considering that the standalone
> >>>> backup alone is 5 RX01 floppies, and the capacity of the TU58 is
> >>>> similar, the number of disks/tapes even for some update kit quickly
> >>>> becomes ridiculous as far as the number of media is concerned.
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> >>>>           Johnny
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> >>> Speaking of ridiculous, nobody wants to mention MicroVMS on RX50s? Fair
> >>> enough.
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> >> I actually installed that. I seem to remember it was 23 RX50. Took some
> >> serious time...
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> > We had a couple of 8200s, and ISTR that by that time it was about 40 RX50
> > (but might have been 80!). I know it was available. Luckily they were
> > clustered with an 8800...
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> But you didn't run MicroVMS on an 8200...?
> I installed it on a MicroVAX II in 1986, at the English Embassy in
> Stockholm. That was one of the weirder things I've done. I worked at DEC
> at the time.
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I don't think microVMS was available for the 8200/8300 models Johnny.
It was intended for the microVAX I (or II) and the 8200/8300 were
considered
real VAXes because they had a BI bus. I cannot recall what was missing
in
microVMS compared to the regular distribution, all device drivers for
BI, UNIBUS and
and MASSBUS would have been a sensible start, right?
Hans

Hans