[Info-vax] HP stopping VMS paper documentation ?

[AEF]

On Nov 28, 6:12 am, AEF <spamsink2... at yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 28, 5:36 am, Alan Feldman <alanfeldma... at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 24, 10:44 pm, Michael Kraemer <M.Krae... at gsi.de> wrote:
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> > > Neil Rieck schrieb:
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> > > > Us too. As soon as electronic docs were available on CD-ROM (IIRC this
> > > > was 1998-1999) we stopped the paper docs. It was better for us (cuz
> > > > the stuff was searchable) and better for the planet.
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> > > Is there any evidence that usage of (recycling) paper does
> > > more damage to the planet at the bottom line than production
> > > (and disposal) of equivalent electronic devices?
> > > As far as I remember the production of an ordinary PC
> > > requires about a metric ton of raw material and quite
> > > a bit of energy. And it is thrown away after three years.
> > > Even recycling that stuff costs energy
> > > and requires poisonous chemicals.
> > > And all this should be more ecological than a few hundred
> > > sheets of paper? Hard to believe.
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> > Damage to the planet? OK, I know what you "mean".
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> > Grow some more trees, I say. Paper is a *renewable resource*! It's
> > also recyclable!
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> > Can you recycle your pdf files? I think not!
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> > Another problem (real) with pdf's is that they're hard to read and
> > Acrobat is a brain-dead program. Even Preview on the Mac has problems.
> > I recently was given a pdf by my boss (uh, "manager") to read. It
> > contained screenshots that were near impossible to read. I printed out
> > the whole document (several dozen pages!). Now I can actually read the
> > damn thing, screenshots and all.
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> > I think I read somewhere that all this "paper saving" doesn't really
> > do a smidgen's worth of good, and just makes tree-huggers feel good.
> > It may not have been "paper saving", maybe it was recycling -- I
> > forget. It was _some_ environmental-type thing.
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> > Another step toward unreadability is the new Word default font. The
> > spaces between words are barely visible. Obviously this was done by a
> > tree-hugger, surely to allow more print to fit on a page, and hence
> > less printed paper overall.
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> > AEF
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> Actually, given all the printouts I see by the printers at work, I
> don't think these sliver-spaces are doing much good anyway. OTOH, I
> still recommend using one space after a period instead of two when
> typing.
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> AEF

I meant all the printouts that the users never pick up.

AEF