[Info-vax] HP wins Oracle Itanium case

Bill Gunshannon billg999 at cs.uofs.edu
Wed Aug 22 08:04:18 EDT 2012


In article <k11fkd$i67$2 at dont-email.me>,
	David Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>> On 8/21/2012 9:25 AM, ChrisQ wrote:
>>> On 08/20/12 21:17, David Froble wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Address the merits of Unix ..
>>>
>>> One of the great strengths of unix is that it is a system designed 
>>> from the
>>> start for programmers to be productive. The terse command and utility
>>> set may
>>> be a steep learning curve, but save so much time when you are familiar 
>>> with
>>> them. The overall philosophy of a single tool to do one job, with the
>>> ability
>>> to trivially pipe the output from one command to another could not be
>>> simpler
>>> in concept, but has real power to to do serious work.
>>>
>>> Now compare that with vms, which has limited functionality as shipped, a
>>> laboured command language,
>> 
>> "Laboured????
>> 
>> If you bought VMS in the United States, or Great Britain,
>> the command language was English.  In the U.S. we don't see VMS
>> using the British but I assume that the British dialect can be 
>> accommodated.
>> 
>> If you want to copy something, COPY is your command.  Want to  print 
>> something, just say PRINT. If you don't specify the file to be printed
>> you will be asked for it!
>> 
>> If your native language is not English, VMS can accommodate you! Chinese 
>> characters are a bit more difficult but possible.
>> 
>>> very expensive software dev tools and
>>> languages and
>>> there's really no argument as to which is the better for software
>>> development.
>>> VMS is a system designed for mission critical work, with reliability
>>> stressed
>>> over wide functionality and ease of use.
>> 
>> I certainly do not find VMS "difficult"!  OTOH, I do find Unix 
>> difficult.  Terse and cryptic does nothing but annoy me!
>>>
>> Had I been forced to use an ASR-33 Teletype to talk to a VMS system,
>> I would hate it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> I believe only the first 4 characters of a DCL verb are considered by the 
> system, so you could limit your typing.  But completing the words gives meaning 
> and understanding to DCL.
> 
> What I have a hard time understanding is soemthing like "ls".  Since I don't use 
> Unix I don't know whether "list" might also work.  Don't get out much, ya know ..

You want "list" to do what "ls" does?  Type "alias list ls" (actually, add
it to your .login if you want oit all the time) and voila!  you have it.
Is that really that hard?

bill

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