[Info-vax] HP wins Oracle Itanium case

[David Froble]

Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> In article <k11fkd$i67$2 at dont-email.me>,
> 	David Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>>> On 8/21/2012 9:25 AM, ChrisQ wrote:
>>>> On 08/20/12 21:17, David Froble wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Address the merits of Unix ..
>>>> One of the great strengths of unix is that it is a system designed 
>>>> from the
>>>> start for programmers to be productive. The terse command and utility
>>>> set may
>>>> be a steep learning curve, but save so much time when you are familiar 
>>>> with
>>>> them. The overall philosophy of a single tool to do one job, with the
>>>> ability
>>>> to trivially pipe the output from one command to another could not be
>>>> simpler
>>>> in concept, but has real power to to do serious work.
>>>>
>>>> Now compare that with vms, which has limited functionality as shipped, a
>>>> laboured command language,
>>> "Laboured????
>>>
>>> If you bought VMS in the United States, or Great Britain,
>>> the command language was English.  In the U.S. we don't see VMS
>>> using the British but I assume that the British dialect can be 
>>> accommodated.
>>>
>>> If you want to copy something, COPY is your command.  Want to  print 
>>> something, just say PRINT. If you don't specify the file to be printed
>>> you will be asked for it!
>>>
>>> If your native language is not English, VMS can accommodate you! Chinese 
>>> characters are a bit more difficult but possible.
>>>
>>>> very expensive software dev tools and
>>>> languages and
>>>> there's really no argument as to which is the better for software
>>>> development.
>>>> VMS is a system designed for mission critical work, with reliability
>>>> stressed
>>>> over wide functionality and ease of use.
>>> I certainly do not find VMS "difficult"!  OTOH, I do find Unix 
>>> difficult.  Terse and cryptic does nothing but annoy me!
>>> Had I been forced to use an ASR-33 Teletype to talk to a VMS system,
>>> I would hate it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I believe only the first 4 characters of a DCL verb are considered by the 
>> system, so you could limit your typing.  But completing the words gives meaning 
>> and understanding to DCL.
>>
>> What I have a hard time understanding is soemthing like "ls".  Since I don't use 
>> Unix I don't know whether "list" might also work.  Don't get out much, ya know ..
> 
> You want "list" to do what "ls" does?  Type "alias list ls" (actually, add
> it to your .login if you want oit all the time) and voila!  you have it.
> Is that really that hard?
> 
> bill
> 

Possibly no harder, nor easier, than:

$ DI            :== directory /size=all /owner_uic /protection -
                         /width=(file=25,owner=10,size=7)
$ din           :== directory /size=all /owner_uic /protection /modified -
                         /width=(file=25,owner=10,size=7) /since="-60-00:00"
$ dit           :== directory /size=all /owner_uic /protection /modified -
                         /width=(file=25,owner=10,size=7) /since=TODAY
$ diy           :== directory /size=all /owner_uic /protection /modified -
                         /width=(file=25,owner=10,size=7) /since=YESTERDAY

But to be fair, one could ask "what does DIRECTORY mean" ..