[Info-vax] Hopelessly Pathetic Hardware Parts

[Phillip Helbig---undress to reply]

In article <a9t635Fo0jU1 at mid.individual.net>, billg999 at cs.uofs.edu (Bill
Gunshannon) writes: 

> > Interestingly, everyone agrees that John McCain was not born inside the 
> > United States.  However, everyone agrees that he was a "natural born" 
> > citizen.  If one, objectively, wanted to pick nits, it should have been 
> > with McCain, not with Obama.
> 
> My daughter was born in Wegberg, FRG.  She is a native American and has a
> real birth certificate to prove it which I am sure is exactly like John
> McCain's.  
> 
> We get penalized enough when we choose to serve the country in the military.
> Would you have our children penalized even more?

That's not what I meant.  My point was that, while McCain was born 
abroad, "everyone agrees" that he is a "natural born" citizen.  AFAIK, 
this isn't defined in the Constitution, but various courts have ruled 
that such cases qualify.  One could, conceivably, disagree with these 
rulings (not that I do), whereas with Obama, the birther claims were 
just made up (including faked documents).

I saw a video of a McCain campaign event where someone from the audience 
started criticizing Obama (the usual "he's a Muslim" stuff, he doesn't 
have the best interests of our country at heart etc).  McCain said that 
while he, obviously, disagrees with Obama on some political issues, he 
saw no reason to criticize him personally and wasn't prepared to 
continue the discussion at that level.  That shut her up.

I don't think there was a huge swing in opinion from Bush to Obama.  
Rather, as is often the case, whoever can mobilize the most voters wins.
I think that McCain was too liberal for many Republican voters, so they 
didn't vote at all, in some cases maybe not aware of the consequences 
since they believed that Obama didn't have a chance anyway.