[Info-vax] Prices of Microvax 3100's

[Paul Sture]

On Fri, 04 May 2012 01:16:31 -0700, John Wallace wrote:

> I've tried Ubuntu on a couple of occasions before Unity and on both
> occasions returned to my Linux of choice, which for several years has
> been SuSe (though at work I'm now mostly using Fedora for reasons not
> relevant here). SuSe has been untrendy for a number of years now; so
> untrendy that it actually came with a traditional *manual* (two in fact,
> one for users, one for admins) either in PDF format or even in paper
> format if you buy a boxed kit with support.

Yes, coming from a VMS background I liked the SuSe manuals too. I had 
previously bought the full set for Red Hat and was disappointed that the 
several hundred pages each books contained little in the way of advice 
for a system manager. Rather it had installation instructions followed by 
one paragraph descriptions of several thousand utilities available on the 
CDs.
 
> I don't yet know what the current SuSe 12.x is like, but from SuSe 8(?)
> to SuSe 11 it's been fine for my needs, including the realtime(ish)
> stuff. Different variants of GNU/Linux have a lot in common underneath,
> but that doesn't mean they're all going to look the same. If you are
> genuinely interested in "thinking different", you shouldn't give up just
> because Ubuntu didn't suit.

I found that on my kit 11.n would freeze every now and then, as did the 
then latest version of Fedora.  I am now running the server version of 
openSUSE 12.1 (note they have changed its name) as a VirtualBox client.  
FWIW I am also running FreeBSD Server as a VirtualBox client as well.

One thing about Fedora desktop I wasn't so keen on was being lectured on 
how evil proprietary software is, or for that matter having to work out 
how to get video and sound working on my own.

See the Fedora "Forbidden Items" list for a taste of that:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items

With Linux Mint, you get sound and video with a standard installation. I 
don't think the security is up there with the likes of openSUSE or FreeBSD 
though.  Can you say "root remote login is allowed by default"?

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Paul Sture