[Info-vax] installation annoyance

[Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER]

In article <1d05bedd-929d-41dd-ad59-422d488c2e1d at i19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Steven Schweda <sms.antinode at gmail.com> writes:
>Looking more carefully, UnZip does seem to produce all
>Stream_LF files here, too.  I may have done something like
>PRODUCT LIST (which, at V8.3, _silently_ changed the
>attributes).  Oops.  Trust no one, I always say.  (HP or me.)

Not even yourself? V8.3 (at least on my Alpha with V8.3-145)
does NOT silently change the attributes. It behaves like V8.4 here
(maybe one of the PCSI Ecos changed this - I'm current on V8.3 and V8.4)

>   When an archive is made using "zip -V", UnZip should
>reproduce all the original attributes.  When "-V" is not
>used, then there are still some I/O-affecting "-a" and "-b"
>options for UnZip.  In this case, "-b" seems to be helpful:

That is great news. I haven't thought of this (I always omit all options
as it seems I totally rely on good ZIP archives - and mostly they are).
I wonder, if I ever knew this options of UNZIP ;-)

>(So, not quite so new as your "V8.4-159", but my patch access
>is not what it once was.)

You should already know how to fix this, shouldn't you?

>   You could do what I do, and submit a complaint to
>OpenVMS.Programs at hp, and then watch as nothing obvious ever
>happens.  I always enjoy that.

Au contraire. I wrote to them before I posted and they

a) told me today, that if the _HPC file isn't there for the check,
then the check falls back to the old _ESW file and off you go
(in my case the ESW had no problem with the attribute change)

b) told me also, that they will produce a new kit
(while I told them, to only deliver a new ZIP file
with the "-V" option for the very same kit/content/files)

So, now we have four different solutions for such problems:

1) Request a new kit (ZIPped with "-V") from HP	(and wait for it)
2) UNZIP -b					(and avoid wrong attributes)
3) DELETE the .PCSI$COMPRESSED_HPC; file	(and use sane checksum file)
4) PRODUCT INSTALL/OPTION=NOVALIDATE		(and ignore checksum file)

This is more than I expected.
Thanks to all

-- 
Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTÖGER
Network and OpenVMS system specialist
E-mail  Peter at LANGSTOeGER.at
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