[Info-vax] Still no IPSEC for TCP/IP services?

[Doug Phillips]

On May 24, 3:21 pm, David Froble <da... at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
> Doug Phillips wrote:
> > AFA what David wants to do, it sounds like typical e-commerce web-
> > server
>
> Yes, it is, and we've got some already implemented.  But we don't try to run them on VMS
> for several reasons.  Our VMS servers are efficient enough to be able to feed and accept
> data to / from multiple web servers with ease.
>
> The bloat-ware that is used to implement some of these things is staggering.  Maybe I'm
> just too old to appreciate bloat-ware.  I really don't.  And maybe I'm out-dated myself.
>
> It just seems to me that communications is one thing.  The current practices of making
> encryption part of the application, rather than underlying the communications, isn't too
> bright.  Unfortunately, that seems to be the norm.

Bloatware. The first computer I programmed for had 4K of core memory.
Some of
today's programmers couldn't do "Hello World" in 4K.

AFA encryption, I think it needs to happen at whatever layer it's
needed. The new
stuff doesn't need the application to know anything about encryption,
unlike in
the past.

There was a cartoon going around not too long ago that said:

"Now that I'm older I thought it was great that I seemed to have more
patience. Turns out I just don't give a shit."

I think I've reached that stage. I try to just go with the flow and
let the
young folks joust with the windmills.